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1985 Defender RHD
Engine/Driveline:
300 TDI conversion, new alternator, water pump, head gasket
Rebuilt R380, rebuilt 1.4 T case
Balanced Propshafts (4000 miles ago)
24 Spline front and rear axles, all LR
New exhaust
Body:
300 TDI smooth roof with alpine windows, matched to body color
Refreshed rear door
Push button Front doors, all refreshed (door gaps are not fantastic but I imagine could be remedied)
Silver painted diamond plate to match the td5 headlight surrounds
Aircon Front grill
Masai 5pc window kit with sliding rears, factory tint, also heated rear door glass and heated windshield
Masai Tree Sliders with silver steps
Masai Rear tire carrier
Interior:
Masai Vinyl rebuilt front seats (heated)
No radio (could not decide what to do with it, still struggling a bit on that front)
No Cubby (same issue, too many choices, did not pull the trigger
MuddUK bulkhead removal bar fitted (seats recline much farther, did not install seat rails as I am 6' and didn't need the leg room)
Masai Window trim kit
Frame:
NEW Galvenized Richards Chasis
NEW Diesel Tank with all new senders
NEW Brake lines
NEW Fuel Lines
NEW AGM Battery
Poly bushed
Rebuilt everything really.
Original speedo (correct mileage)


Long story short this truck retained the rear tub and sides, and the front clip. Everything else has been replaced with 300 TDI spec parts.

Full album of photos can be seen here:
https://plus.google.com/photos/10283...177?banner=pwa

Most recent photo with the 34" XCL included:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ov79xayds4...57.34.jpg?dl=0

My gut number considering the complete and total body off respray, the new chassis and all new plumbing, the rebuilt axles with all new brakes, the 300 TDI and the reman driveline may be high but I don't know, since I have seen restored trucks running old TDs and 2.5NA trucks asking almost $30K with a frame on respray I would think this truck is a bit more desirable.

*Update*
I have put over 4000 miles on this truck this summer, changed the oil, checked the fluids, the engine and everything I could think of. Runs great, the 34" XCLs are included with the sale, as are the white wheels pictured (think the tires are bunk but they are certainly up for grabs to the new owner)

Price is $35K
 

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bump bump bump,

I keep driving it, it keeps going down the road at 65+mph, it keeps getting mid 20 mpg...

also I keep checking it for drips but I think I have chased them all down.
 

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also I keep checking it for drips but I think I have chased them all down.
And I keep checking for those XCL's in the parts section, but I still don't see them...

Good luck with your sale!
 

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And I keep checking for those XCL's in the parts section, but I still don't see them... Good luck with your sale!
HA! Thanks!

The truck is a beast on the 34"s all these southern boys be like 'wtf is that jeep?'

Then they hear the TDI and see it's rhd and still don't know
 

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Did I mention the frame is galvanized?

And the engine is a 300tdi?

And the transmission and tcase are rebuilt?

And I want to buy a project so I can further my love/hate relationship with Land Rover?
 

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Can't believe this isn't gone yet!

GLWTS
Ebay is insanely tough, I am going to snap better photos of the truck for my Ad but people on ebay have NO IDEA what they are looking at.

Compounded by the fact that its hard to see value when they are comparing my truck with a resprayed 90 with a 2.5NA and original frame and don't see why mine is more expensive.

On the forum most people are owners/enthusiasts and know that a new frame, new lines, rebuilt axles/drivetrain/steering, and a 300TDI are big $ items and there is total value for my truck.

The sum of the parts are worth the asking price, the bolt on bits make it a relative steal IMO. at $35K I am eating my lunch on this truck but, like most of you guys, I am a glutton for punishment and need to wrench on something. It is nice to get into a truck that runs and drives and doesn't drip...
 

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I don't think anyone but enthusiasts appreciate the rebuild for what it means in terms of the vehicle they would be buying. If it were me selling on eBay I'd put more photos of the finished product in detail and set in an attractive environment (by the beach, near wooded area, etc). For eBay you need to do mass marketing to get the attention of potential buyers.

For forums like this, your rebuild pics are a great selling point.

Just my 2c

GLWS.
 

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I don't think anyone but enthusiasts appreciate the rebuild for what it means in terms of the vehicle they would be buying. If it were me selling on eBay I'd put more photos of the finished product in detail and set in an attractive environment (by the beach, near wooded area, etc). For eBay you need to do mass marketing to get the attention of potential buyers.

For forums like this, your rebuild pics are a great selling point.

Just my 2c

GLWS.
Bingo, I need to get it out for a photoshoot somewhere.

Though I am still attracting buyers who have no idea what the value is on this rig

At any rate, still available, FRIDAY BUMP
 

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Folks, you're not going to be able to build this specification for cheaper, then you'd also be waiting 12 months.
Galvy frame, 3-hundy, frame-off respray, new interior? EDIT: and I just noticed the NAS rear step bumper!


Be patient Jason the right buyer will show up.


A conversation just came up the other day to somebody telling me about a buyer who's budget was in the mid $20s. My response was: "good luck with that!, get a $25k UK 90 and one trip to the shop for some needs and he'll be sniffing at a $30-handle all-in cost anyway. Why not buy something that has been frame-off rebuilt?"
People woefully underestimate what it costs to properly sort specialty vehicles. With shop rates creeping above $120/hr, isn't it better to buy something well sorted? I know part of the allure of Defender ownership is working on these things yourself in a rolling restoration, but it's still going to cost you lots of time and money to get a truck to this state of condition.
Another conversation I had was about this theoretical ceiling people have in their minds what they are willing to spend on a Rover. They say "oh, I won't spend more than X for a 25 year old Tonka truck", but then proceed to double that budget getting a truck sorted.
 

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good advice Jackie

Never the less I think the issue here is marketing. All of us can see the value here but all of us also like working on these vehicles.. and we all know that we could build a similar vehicle for the same amount of money that is being asked. That doesn't mean that the vehicle can't be sold here it just needs the right buyer. of course it can , it just means waiting for the buyer that you've described to show up . So I propose that this needs to be marketed to a broader audience if the seller doesn't want to wait. So it's either a matter of waiting for the right buyer in this forum which may take a while but it will happen sooner or later, or marketing to a broader audience and selling it within a short period of time
 

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I'm not sure I agree with Joseph and Aynsley.

I dont think a RHD ROW truck is going to fetch $35K on an enthusiasts forum...no matter how long you wait.
$35K can still get a decent NAS 90; maybe not with a galvy frame, three hundy , and whatnot.
But it will be 10 years newer and a limited NAS.

I think eBay is the big market.


.....since we're speculating and all....


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I'm not sure I agree with Joseph and Aynsley. I dont think a RHD ROW truck is going to fetch $35K on an enthusiasts forum...no matter how long you wait. $35K can still get a decent NAS 90; maybe not with a galvy frame, three hundy , and whatnot. But it will be 10 years newer and a limited NAS. I think eBay is the big market. .....since we're speculating and all.... .
Agree. Lots of transactions here and each Defender combination (90/110, NAS/ROW, LHD/RHD, clean/blemished/salvaged, original/okay resto/ECR resto, etc) has a ceiling. This is true for all cars.
 

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I'm not sure I agree with Joseph and Aynsley.

I dont think a RHD ROW truck is going to fetch $35K on an enthusiasts forum...no matter how long you wait.
$35K can still get a decent NAS 90; maybe not with a galvy frame, three hundy , and whatnot.
But it will be 10 years newer and a limited NAS.

I think eBay is the big market.


.....since we're speculating and all....


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I am leaning this way too...but good luck with the sale. Marketing is key!
 

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Sorry if I sparked a "value debate" within a FS thread. That was not my intent and I do respect those opinions.
I'm simply saying this truck has been rebuilt from the ground up and lots of sweat and hours have gone into it. It's one of those trucks that is unlikely to have any real "needs" for many years to come.

I also respect the $14,000 ROW 90 and its position in the enthusiast range as well. Like myself, I bet Jason is trying to avoid the legions of asshats on eBay even if it gives him greater exposure. Maybe the Bring-A-Trailer auction format would be a happy medium (for both of our trucks).
I'd rather see mine go to an enthusiast who appreciates the mechanics and does the work themselves. That said, money is money and if David Pearlman shows up with a Birkin bag full of cash, I'd take that too!
 
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