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I started importing original LHD Defenders back in 2013. My ( almost )only outlet has been this website. I met many great people, made many friends and still think it is a lot of fun and like this place.

Moving forward now, my last 5 or 6 listings didn’t get any response, just nothing. Comparing pricing and condition, I know mine are better value then many advertised on BAT, Ebay or even here. People offering rusty RHD 90’s for more then I am asking for a 110 or even 130 in better shape and LHD.

Makes me wonder, everybody here has a Defender already ?

should I move to eBay, Hemmings or Bat ?

I know the Corona virus doesn’t help but this is for a few months already, I used to have a waiting list...

have about 20 x 110 and 130, Tdi, V8 and three x LS powered. PM me for my (kind of confidential) website..... if you are the one here without a Defender ...
 

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I just referred someone to you the other day but i think you are correct the current climate is challenging. Ebay is a pain with dead beat bidders and fairly saturated. At least with BAT they charge your card if you bid. Might be worth trying.
 

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Whenever I hear of someone looking I always throw your name out there.

Are you on the NAS-ROW forum? May be worth posting over there as well.
 

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When I’m finally comfortable and ready, I’ll buy one from you. I would say maybe in another year hopefully.
And I won’t be looking for anything like an LS conversion. Just a D110 or maybe even a S III 109.


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I started importing original LHD Defenders back in 2013. My ( almost )only outlet has been this website. I met many great people, made many friends and still think it is a lot of fun and like this place.

Moving forward now, my last 5 or 6 listings didn’t get any response, just nothing. Comparing pricing and condition, I know mine are better value then many advertised on BAT, Ebay or even here. People offering rusty RHD 90’s for more then I am asking for a 110 or even 130 in better shape and LHD.

Makes me wonder, everybody here has a Defender already ?

should I move to eBay, Hemmings or Bat ?

I know the Corona virus doesn’t help but this is for a few months already, I used to have a waiting list...

have about 20 x 110 and 130, Tdi, V8 and three x LS powered. PM me for my (kind of confidential) website..... if you are the one here without a Defender ...

Here goes on my two cents:

I have been 'looking' for a LHD 110 for 6-9 mos. I am mid-40's with plenty of discretionary income, but at the same time, a value shopper. (For a refresher: value doesn't mean cheap, it means getting decent return for the price paid.) From what I can discern, sellers are intoxicated with price points from years past. I see sellers asking $40-45K for a '92 2.5TD and 130K miles, explaining how much work they've done, meanwhile there's shyt paint jobs and rust everywhere. When what it really amounts to is a solid Meguiar's wax job and some Armor-All in the interior. Fancy it up with some artistic HD photos, and voila!

The US economy has been on rapid expansion for ~12 years now. Setting aside the devastating economic impact from Covid-19, astute buyers already understand the economy is overheated, the only room for the next few years a leveling off. Or worse. It's basic value assessment based on corporate earnings, this isn't a point of discussion - just fact. I assume many other prospective buyers see through the smoke-and-mirrors economic 'plan' of this administration as well. Now, layer over this the 30% loss in value to the American stock markets (attributed to coronavirus), and sellers should be ready to accept one of two realities: 1. lower your price; or, 2. get ready to sit on your inventory.

While my tone may sound negative, or even lecturing (not intended, just the way I write), I remain hopeful that some seller will realize that in today's economy, they shouldn't expect to make 20% profit on a vehicle whose supply is increasing every year... Just my two cents: and an empty space in my garage for a 110...
 

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So you are a value minded shopper looking for a LHD 110...have you checked out Johan's inventory??? Based on Johan's pricing on quality LHD trucks, I'd be very surprised if he's making 20% profit. If you are serious about buying a good quality truck you should check out what he has to offer.
 

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x2 what Parrie said.. I agree with your assesment you see plenty of RHD trucks that are nothing more than sprayed over rust buckets.. Thats not what ive seen Johan offer. His trucks are presented warts and all in their original form and tend to be solid and LHD at the same price of most RHD tarts from other sellers.
 

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So you are a value minded shopper looking for a LHD 110...have you checked out Johan's inventory??? Based on Johan's pricing on quality LHD trucks, I'd be very surprised if he's making 20% profit. If you are serious about buying a good quality truck you should check out what he has to offer.
Good morning Parrie - thanks for the note. Yes, I have reviewed his inventory, and I agree that his prices are among the most reasonable i've seen. I have also communicated with him via e-mail, and he seems like a solid, trustworthy guy. I would also note that it doesn't appear asking prices have changed in accord with the massive dip in the economy (recognizing it's big dive has only occurred over the last three weeks). I see that former Federal Reserve Chair Ben Bernanke has recently said we will undoubtedly enter into a recession (classical definition) by Q2/Q3. I completely recognize that I am influenced by broader economic conditions than are most, which is why I

Lastly, I notice your user account is registered in Old Town. I live down on the Yarmouth/Freeport line. I grew up playing youth hockey with (and against) a number of kids from Old Town and Indian Island at the Sockalexis Arena. The best damned french fries (along with the Lewiston rink). Hope you all are faring well up there. We're seeing more and more cars with out-of-state plates streaming in to southern Maine right now, trying to outrun the coronavirus. I just wonder how many of these tadpoles are bringing it with them...
 

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Hockey at Sockalexis...your showing your age now! Unfortunately the arena hasn't seen a youth hockey game for close to 20yrs or more I'd say. They converted it to a high stakes bingo destination, uggh. My brother and sister are in Cape Elizabeth...we are all concerned about the growing number cases and influx in the southern counties. Hope all is well with your family.

Johan's trucks aren't for everyone...if you're looking for a completely rebuilt shiny over-priced diamond he's not your guy. If you're looking for a good solid specimen with full/acurate condition disclosure he's well respected and one of the few. I don't know Johan personally but considering the price compared to most he's working on a small margin...for a LHD truck I think his pricing is still in-line for a classic vehicle plus there's the comfort factor.

Agreed, a recession is most likely going to be the end result of this mess. Considering the amount of RHD ROW trucks currently on the market I think prices are going to crash very soon while the LHD trucks tend to hold their value.
 

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Hockey at Sockalexis...your showing your age now! Unfortunately the arena hasn't seen a youth hockey game for close to 20yrs or more I'd say. They converted it to a high stakes bingo destination, uggh. My brother and sister are in Cape Elizabeth...we are all concerned about the growing number cases and influx in the southern counties. Hope all is well with your family.

Johan's trucks aren't for everyone...if you're looking for a completely rebuilt shiny over-priced diamond he's not your guy. If you're looking for a good solid specimen with full/acurate condition disclosure he's well respected and one of the few. I don't know Johan personally but considering the price compared to most he's working on a small margin...for a LHD truck I think his pricing is still in-line for a classic vehicle plus there's the comfort factor.

Agreed, a recession is most likely going to be the end result of this mess. Considering the amount of RHD ROW trucks currently on the market I think prices are going to crash very soon while the LHD trucks tend to hold their value.

I agree with your observation re: Johan's trucks - they are ideal if one is looking for the authentic/original truck. I really dont care for all the shiny new shyt, or the $80K refurbishment. I want to drive the rig, not throw a cover over it in my garage. Patience is the name of the game i suppose. Even if I bought a 110 today, where would I drive it...?

Be well...
 

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I would also note that it doesn't appear asking prices have changed in accord with the massive dip in the economy (recognizing it's big dive has only occurred over the last three weeks). I see that former Federal Reserve Chair Ben Bernanke has recently said we will undoubtedly enter into a recession (classical definition) by Q2/Q3. I completely recognize that I am influenced by broader economic conditions than are most, which is why I
Not all assets (cars, houses, collectibles, etc.) are perfectly correlated to the financial markets. If you're waiting to buy after a dip in prices and/or rock bottom liquidation scenarios you're a bit early to the party...we'll see what happens. Recession is pretty much certain. Depth and length of the recession is TBD. Stay tuned, and good luck to all getting through what could be lean times. I hope things settle down quickly and we get a pop back up to normalcy
 

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Agreed...sell off wont be overnight.. Payments for mortgages, leases, taxes etc will all get delayed. Expect Q4 to start seeing liquidation sales.
 

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Thanks for all the positive responses.

I want everybody to know though, I am not complaining, I don't have a problem, I am not worried and I don't have to sell my cars. The less I sell, the more I have and that feels good too. Actually, I am selling more cars without advertising and was just referring to the fact that there is not any response from this website.

I was just observing, wondering and questioning how the Defender market is evolving and the position of the Defendersource members in today's market.

Yes, the world has changed in just two weeks and the impact on the sales of Land Rover is, at least, for sure not positive.

Besides that, I agree, there are more and more Defenders coming over. It looks like every week a new ''specialist'' is stepping up, importing those well sought after, unique and one owner trucks from mainly the English rust belt. I admit I have rusty Defenders too but I make sure the buyer knows they are rusty. I refuse to hide it with paint, underbody, nice wheels or checker plate. Is somebody interested in a totally rusted out 130 300Tdi ?

Everybody in Europe now knows about the USA market and is asking premium. A well used 1995 Defender 130 can catch the same price as a 2007 130 Puma in good condition. Prices in Europe have gone sky high and obviously I can not sell anymore against prices I used to do. I invested a few years back in 95 and 96 trucks and can still offer against decent prices, at least I think so but still higher then I could do a few years back.

Just because I like those cars I also started doing some LS conversions, high-end restorations and so. Maybe not the best business idea but at least I now have three LS-powered LHD Defenders. Feels good, drives great.

For the ''value'' shoppers, investors and the cheap @#[email protected] ; I am like that too. Waiting for the deepest point in the market.. One thing for you all; markets go up and down and I can wait longer .. hahaha.

In general, I think this website has less active members then a few years ago. I don't have statistics so I might be wrong but it feels like before every Defender owner in USA was on this website. Now, a small portion of the Defenderowers are here.

As some of you suggested, I am going to widen my horizon and maybe use Hemmings, Ebay or BAT. I also might change my website so Google can find it, so far I specifically have it listed as not being available for any search engine.

Still like it here, meeting new, great friends, listening to all stories and very important, making new stories.
 

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Then there are probably quite a few like me, I've been messing with these trucks since the early 90's, and lost count how many 90s and 110s I've had over those years. 200s, 300s, a couple of Td5s and even a Puma for a short while. Don't know if its me just getting older, or I'm just tired of messing with the poorly built, leaky, noisy things.
Just got rid of my Td5 90, but wife has a RRS Diesel, and I've started working on one of three 1995 RRC I've collected, along with a 1962 IIa. 88" truck cab that needs restoration.
Not saying that i won't ever own another 90 or 110, but I think I have them out of my system, and RRC's are a lot more comfortable to drive.
 
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