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Old May 23rd, 2019, 06:37 PM
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Any chance you can work up a V8 version of that combined AC/heat unit.
The heater/AC unit is universal, so will fit into any Defender. The only difference would be the engine compressor mounts.

We can supply universal compressor mounts with the kit, you'd just have to figure a way to fit them to the engine.



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Old July 11th, 2019, 11:46 PM
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I've contacted Ministry of Defender recently about this awesome dash and a/c combo. They are very responsive to inquiries. thanks guys
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Old August 7th, 2019, 03:46 AM
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I have fairly strong interest in this solution. My goal is to have a single controller for heater and A/C and not have the underslung A/C unit separate from the engine mounted heater unit. Added bonus: Nick's Canbus to OEM puma dash or Dakota 2017 would both be nice gauge setups.

I looked at their HVAC setup. From what I can gather. It mounts on the firewall in the engine bay and has 2 outlets. It further looks like the 2 outlets enter the cabin through the square hole in the firewall that the OEM heater covers. Now the downsides:

1. the 2 outlets get 3 way split between the round facial vent, the defroster and the side defroster. The Ministry guys say that it mostly goes to the facial vent and if you want full defrost close the facial vent.
2. there is no outlet firing down at your feet
3. The temperature control works by controlling a physical water valve which controls how much hot water goes into the unit and thus controls temperature.

What I think I'm going to do but I need to convince Nick to also get excited about the project:
1. order the ministry of Defender dash setup but not their HVAC setup
2. order the mock up kit for the vintage air gen 2 mini and see if it physically fits behind the dash.

One of Nick's dealers apparently has accomplished this exact setup.

Assuming that's the case I'll wire up separate hoses for the facial vents, defrost + side t'd off and an added downward firing vent all controlled by an electronic servo inside the vintage air unit. Also note that classicautoair makes a similar sized unit and I prefer their billet controller. Don't know if they also have a mock up kit. ClassicAutoAir's is an inch longer and who knows if that makes it a no go.

Per the dash, I have the Dakota 1018 dash kit that won't fit the puma binnacle. I'd have to move up to the DD2017 which has more of an elongated shape. There is a picture floating around of what that looks like just need a copy. The positive in staying with the Dakota is that I have the Dakota TPMS module installed and it does work. Also have oil temp and external temp. Hate to give those up but I gain in that I think the OEM puma dash will look better and since it uses Nick's can bus setup I would maintain my OBD II port which currently feeds my Dakota and can't be daisy chained. With the Can bus going to the Puma stock gauges I can leave the OBD II port for my bluetooth gadget that connects to an app on my iPad giving gauge info or just connect to it with a scan tool. Right now I have to unplug the Dakota OBDII module to connect a scan tool which I'm not in love with.

For a shifter, I currently have the Lokar shifter which would no longer fit. I could use one of the double bended Lokar shift knobs but that's a little rigged. Another option is the powertraincontrol electronic shifter mounted in the dash. That's what Twisted and Urban Truck run albeit in the center console. And finally I could redo my custom center console and incorporate a console shifter like the new Lokar but my custom console is really nice. It's got the Range Rover sport cooler box incorporated and a lot of storage. Don't want to give those up so it's probably the powertrain control systems setup.

If/when I pull the trigger I'll take a lot of pictures. If I'm reading the Ministry HVAC setup wrong please let me know. This is based on e-mails with them and their web site.
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Old August 7th, 2019, 06:28 AM
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Any chance you can work up a V8 version of that combined AC/heat unit. We don't see very many Tdi engines here...
There is Mass, then there is ROW. In my garage are 3 Tdi’s on pallets, 3 trucks with Tdi’s, and one one the way to be gone over, once it ages out (like the Olsen twins).

There is another Defender shop that is installing the stand alone AC/heat system, and I am getting decent feedback on it. I will leave it to them to chime in if they wish.

Yeah, it is not Super Duty truck air, with vents and directions and nuances... but it will probably out perform any Defender stock AC system, OE Puma included. And I can say that with some certainty, as we owned a drove a Puma throughout Europe.

That said, I would be in for 2 on a group buy.
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Old September 4th, 2019, 10:35 PM
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yeah, having more options for where the a/c goes would be beyond awesome
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