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Emerson00 February 12th, 2008 10:49 AM

1995 Range Rover Classic LWB
 
I think this should be qualified as a "feeler"...

I've got it to pass inspection. It's got a load of new parts (see below). Runs smooth and drives straight, starts and stops correctly.

I've replaced:
Starter motor (Mean Green 'cuz it was for sale cheaper at RN)
Swivel balls, upper pins and bearings - now filled with one-shot grease
All seals from the axles to the hubs
Wiper motor - the whole assembly
Power steering hoses and reservoir
Viscous coupling (big difference)
Battery (Yellow Optima was crap, had an Interstate put in)
Track rod, drag link, and panhard rods with new ball joints
Steering damper (OME)
New alignment last week at inspection
Headlight assemblies (Hellas and all new buckets etc)
Liftgate struts
Waxoyled most of the undercarriage to stop rust (see below)
Miscellany small stuff (like dome lenses, oil cap, seat switch covers, etc) and I figure I'll remember more stuff shortly

Problems:
I think the PS pump is losing the fight.
Rust. Frame, liftgate, lower tailgate, minor in the front wheel wells, and under/near the decker panel. I had the frame rust covered with patches (intended to be temp fix to get past inspection) and coated it with waxoyl to stop the rust from creeping.
Price? I'm in for very nearly $16k or 17k. That's not the buyer's problem, but understand I'm unwiling to dump it for nothing because of that. From the outside and interior, the truck's as nice as they get aside from some parking lot dings in the passenger door. I mean, it looks great.

Because i appreciate what it is/was, I'd rather see it go to an enthusiast if I sold it. I do think, however, it's worth $5k or more.

Why am I selling? I'm not sure I am, but frankly, I don't trust the truck. i've had so many problems in the 12 months of ownership that every time I hear a noise I wonder what's next. I also have a beautiful wooden sailboat that I need ot get in the water again this year and, simply put, the Rover's eaten the boat time and money budgets many times over. I don't have the time to continue with the project, and the money will afford me the ability to put a true classic back in the water. I'm listing my Ducati as well for the same reason. I need my boat more than a Rover. I've come to a love/hate point with this RRC, but am desperate to go cruising again.

Thoughts/suggestions?

Gore Ranger February 12th, 2008 11:34 AM

ebay.

probably already looked into this but what about lemon laws?


I would keep it if I was in your boat (no pun intended)

rmuller February 12th, 2008 11:39 AM

I'd do either A) eBay, B) autotrader, C) local paper, D) try to trade in on something on a lot.

Either that or keep it and keep throwing $$ at it until it's perfect again. Don't know your space situation, but may be worthwhile to buy another '95 parts truck for cheap.

Uncle Douglas February 12th, 2008 11:58 AM

I've looked at this truck and while it has some rust- its got a hell of a lot of life left in it and looks great (recent repaint). For 5k/5k it would make someone a nice truck for several years. Waxoyl arrests rust. Matt has cured what ails this rig.

themaxx February 12th, 2008 12:09 PM

I'm not in the market for an RRC, but what color is it? Throw some pictures up.

Emerson00 February 12th, 2008 12:12 PM

Thanks, Doug.

FWIW, last thing I wish to do is FleeBay... there's a pending lawsuit over the truck (title is free and clear in hand) because of typical eBay practices. I want the buyer to be a Rover nut who knows what's what (and will appreciate the myriad new parts I bled, cussed, cried, and went broke over).

BTW, Doug, sorry I didn't stop by this past weekend - I hoped to help with the 110s (and the D90?) but the "small survey" I was planning for just Saturday morning ate the entire weekend - bad rental equipment (I'm waiting to hear whether the $1M addition needs to be re-staked again now that the equipment's right).... anyway, long story short, my first weekend free of the Rover saga was not so free.

it's lunchtime, so I'll try to figure out d-90 pictures now. I've got close to 200 I think, now.

White, tan interior. It ain't showroom perfect, but I've not seen another in person or in pictures with an interior this clean. I'd guess 95% or more of the headliner is still perfect; only the passenger rear corner and the sunroof fabric are "off."

Atttempt No. 1:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...wbwhite012.jpg

That's the only shot I have to hand at work... the rest are at home. I'll post more tonight.

Flagg February 12th, 2008 02:35 PM

Emerson,

WOW - that truck looks beautiful. Good luck with the sale - and we will miss you on this page. Hopefully you stick around and buy another Rover product at some point......

Flagg

Emerson00 February 12th, 2008 02:57 PM

I'll stick around I think... invisibility has it's perks. ;) besides... no guarantees I can sell this one anyway.

The thought crossed my mind that if I could unload Humpty Dumpty AND the motorcycle fast enough, I'd try to grab Doug's D-90. But don't tell him that, he's already got one fluky buyer teasing him. And I haven't told SWMBO about that brilliant idea, yet.

Uncle Douglas February 12th, 2008 03:56 PM

Selling a Rangie in Feb shouldn't be hard but the Ducatti.....


Buy the 110 TDI- you know you wanty it ! Room for your surveying gear and your dogs in the back & 30mpg to boot.

Emerson00 February 12th, 2008 04:09 PM

$6500 for a gorgeous black Multistrada with a few extras shouldn't be hard...

It's getting hard to think about selling either of these, particularly the Duc, but both?.... I need to remember why I need to sell.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...S/b1bde2fd.jpg

woldd90 February 14th, 2008 05:49 PM

Gonna take that on a 3 hour tour?

That is a really nice looking boat.

rgrrvr February 14th, 2008 08:36 PM

Ahh yes another satisfied Land Rover customer...now might be an appropriate time to post this rant I found elsewhere and laughed so hard I had to save it:

"Finally, let me give you some realistic advice about the oil pissing money pit you just bought. Although this is a hackneyed statement:

the day you bought that thing and the day you sell it will be your two favorite days.

Here's what's going to happen:

Since you bought it at a million miles, shit is going to break left and right. Even if some dbag who owned it before had some shit like 'one owner, dealer serviced' in the ad when he posted it for sale, it's still going to break. Even if the only off road it saw was when the asshole who owned it before you was when his wife backed it out of the garage and hit a rhododendron, it's going to break.

The idler for the serpentine belt is going to seize when the bearing heats up with no grease in it. If you're lucky, this will happen when you're driving into your driveway. I say lucky as when it goes, you no longer have power steering (probably doesn't work anyway, but I'll get to that later), and you also no longer have a working alternator. Oh, btw, the alternator is going to start squealing at some point, so you're going to have to replace that. Might as well get that while you're replacing the idler. OH! And grab a new belt while you're at it. Ok, back to the steering. The power steering pump is going to leak from every seal, pipe, cap, bolt, etc. Don't bother trying to fix it, just keep fluid with you and top it off when you get gas. You'll be doing that all the time since the pig gets like 12 mpg. Oh! and you're supposed to put hi octane in it, so be prepared to bend over once or twice a week when you fill it up. When you're ordering the parts above, might as well order the oil cooler pipes that pass by the radiator on the drivers side as they are going to rust through and piss oil everywhere on your way to work. Oh, another thing to add to the list. Replace all the wheel bearings unless you want them to suddenly fail on the highway and weld themselves to the spindle, while yanking the steering wheel out of your hand. It will be so sudden that you may think that you jerked the steering wheel while waking up after passing out while driving. It's great that you got the disco with two sunroofs since one or both is going to fail. Save up for some steel wheels because the alloy wheels on it are going to be useless after a few trips off road. Oh, more stuff to order - diff protectors since the paper ones that came with this beautiful truck are likely to piss like a scared little girl when the first stick pokes at them. Steering protection for the pencil thin tie rods. Oh! Almost forgot, the rattling you hear is the cats that have shit the bed. Order those. Oh! Might as well order some exhaust manifolds and gaskets since those are either cracked or about to crack. Do you have a dog? Do yourself a favor and order new hinges for the rear door. If not, it's going to break when you're on your way to get coffee at 5:30 in the morning while fido is in the way back. You'll hear a little squeak from the canine and look in your rear view mirror. For a second, you're brain is going to process what it's seeing. Yes, it's seeing your dog sitting in the back while the door is wide open, hanging on one hinge. BTW, the heavy duty hinges from Atlantic British are $150 bucks. I almost wrote 'probably worth it', but 150 bucks for fucking hinges! Are you kidding me! Since you're into the tune up and other crap up above for a couple k, might as well get the checkbook out for a few more things. Get a snorkle. It's like 400 of the best dollars you'll ever spend. (I'm kidding about that one, almost no one NEEDS a snorkle). Order the 100 dollar lift kit from ebay. You can put that on when you're fixing the hole in the diff because you decided to buy that snorkle instead of diff covers. Oh! back to your question. That hard shift is one of about 10 things. Get the checkbook out again and order a front driveshaft, that's probably gone, even if it's not the source of the hard shifting. Forgive me for forgetting what this piece is called, but there is some stupid flex disk somewhere in the rear driveshaft near the ujoints - that' s probably gone. Oh! Order u joints and put those on when you're under there putting the ebay 100 dollar lift in. Oh, one more thing for the checkbook while it's jacked up - order 4 new rotors and pads. Maybe you can make it a weekend and do the uj's, lift, wheel bearings, rotors, and pads. And steel wheels. OOh! You can spend an hour or so playing 'find the rust'. It's on the rear wheelwell inside the door, a lot hidden in the front fenders - not the fender part, the inner fenders. Doors probably have some rust too. Just get some por 15 in the color of your choice and spread it on. Don't forget to peel up the carpet as all that sound deadening material rover put on there to make you think the truck is 'quiet' actually trapped ever molecule of moisture that ever went in the truck since the day it came off the build line.

Just wanted you to know what you're in for. FWIW, I LOVED my disco, and unfortunately sold it to someone local so my kids have to tell me 'daddy, we saw your truck, someone else was driving it'."

rover4x4 February 17th, 2008 08:53 PM

photos? Where is the truck?

Uncle Douglas February 18th, 2008 09:58 AM

Emerson took this truck off road with Charles Galpins club this weekend. I rode in the lwb for a while- she does great. This is a great truck for someone.

rover4x4 February 18th, 2008 06:30 PM

photos

Emerson00 February 18th, 2008 09:28 PM

Yes, sir!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...wbwhite027.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...wbwhite001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...wbwhite064.jpg

Follow-up Post:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...wbwhite015.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...wbwhite016.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...wbwhite070.jpg

Follow-up Post:

enough pretty.... here's the truck Sunday.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...o/HPIM0801.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...o/HPIM0799.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...o/HPIM0792.jpg

rover4x4 February 19th, 2008 06:06 AM

photos of the problem areas?

Emerson00 February 19th, 2008 08:38 AM

email address? Too tedious to host and link that many photos... I'll email all you want.

Robbie Donaldson February 19th, 2008 09:18 PM

Emerson, where are you at in MD? would you mind sending me some of the problem area photos as well? rbd4a@yahoo.com. Also, if you wouldn't mind emailing me your asking price, that would be great. thanks.

Abrooks February 19th, 2008 09:55 PM

Make it happen, Robbie!


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