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Old December 22nd, 2013, 07:45 PM
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Alright, in the quest to try to replace the blown 2.25L engine in my D90, the possibility of shoving a 3.5L into the gaping hole has come up. Does anyone have one they are willing to part with, and what kind of prices are we talking about? And, yes, I've searched, and most listings are old enough to be fossilized.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 08:09 PM
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didn't you just buy a new transmission that only works with 4 cyls ?
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 08:18 PM
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He is running a r380 short bellhousing.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 08:24 PM
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that's my point- that doesn't bolt up to a v8

I have a 63k mile 3.5 v8 here with lt95 gear box and all ancillarys. Its in Trey's 110 and can be driven if you are serious. We have a 4.2 with similar mileage and and autobox that he wants to switch to
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 09:04 PM
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Oh. Right. That's a moot point then. Guess I'll be going diesel after all.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 10:23 PM
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? I thought the short bell housing would mate with a 3.5 or 3.9? I have a couple r380 bellhousings from manual discos can we just switch the bell housing? Or is the shaft length different as well?
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? I thought the short bell housing would mate with a 3.5 or 3.9? I have a couple r380 bellhousings from manual discos can we just switch the bell housing? Or is the shaft length different as well?
Shaft length is different as well , short housing has short shaft long has long .
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 11:01 PM
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Gotcha, will the 2.5 diesel bolt to it? Or is the bolt pattern different?
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Short R380 will fit 2.5 NAD and the 200, as well as the 2.5TD I believe.
I have a 3.5 and several 3.9s, and auto trannys, but no long R380s... And do have a sweet 200 that would be a bolt in to that new tranny of which you speak.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 12:16 AM
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Dare I inquire as to the going rate for 200s these days?
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There is one in the classified section for 4k. It includes a tranny.
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My guess is that it will be 5k-6 for the complete drivetrain but I could be wrong. But you can always sell the extra tranny, to get a complete drivetrain out of a local that knows the history is big. Knowing and trusting an individual goes a long way, also everything you need for the conversion so your not getting nickel and dimed to death.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 12:37 AM
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The new R380 in it already cost ~$4500 for parts and labor, so I'm guessing a bit more .
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My guess is that it will be 5k-6 for the complete drivetrain but I could be wrong. But you can always sell the extra tranny, to get a complete drivetrain out of a local that knows the history is big. Knowing and trusting an individual goes a long way, also everything you need for the conversion so your not getting nickel and dimed to death.

More like 'hundreds and thousand' to death- think fuel lines, filters, ancillaries on up to turbo, intercooler, radiator, exhaust, etc, etc not to mention it all done correctly with factory bits which makes a huge difference initially but also whenever anything is needed down the line... Learn from others mistakes and save considerable time and dollars.
$4500!?!?
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 09:51 AM
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It's looking like I can secure a 2.5NA for about $800 locally which should alleviate some of the complications of installation, but, at this point, I'm wonder if I should just thoroughly cut my losses and try to sell this damned thing in its current condition.
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selling a non-runner is near impossible (at least for recouping your investment)
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More like 'hundreds and thousand' to death- think fuel lines, filters, ancillaries on up to turbo, intercooler, radiator, exhaust, etc, etc not to mention it all done correctly with factory bits which makes a huge difference initially but also whenever anything is needed down the line... Learn from others mistakes and save considerable time and dollars.
$4500!?!?
Dale- glad to see you back. Hows the shoulder ? I had a grade 4 shoulder separation 2 yrs ago and the quack elected not to operate to repair it then, its just prolonged my agony.
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selling a non-runner is near impossible (at least for recouping your investment)
Not impossible for the right price, but he will never see what he has into back, we are just trying to make the best of a bad situation. As a none runner I see it being worth $7-10 tops, but he will never take that and I don't blame him. Fix it and sell it, if he wants to try and convert it to LHD that would get some more of his money back as well. He just doesn't want to keep sinking more money into it that he won't get back.
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at this point, I'm wonder if I should just thoroughly cut my losses and try to sell this damned thing in its current condition.
Any pics anywhere?
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 11:00 AM
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Recouping my investment at this point is a lost cause, and I've come to terms with that. Now I'm just trying to mitigate losses.

The Rover has literally never been in my possession long enough for me to take any good pictures of it. Original listing is here: http://gmr4x4.com/defender-90.htm Since then, however, it's had its front seats recovered with heated elements installed, a Mantec tire carrier installed, and, of course, a new transmission. In my admittedly ignorant opinion it's not a perfect example of a 90, but there's not a lot wrong with it (aside from the obvious blown engine, of course).
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