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Old July 6th, 2010, 11:56 AM
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Got the summer blues? Having trouble keeping your Defender temperature gauge in the blue zone? Running hot at idle or on the highway?

Try one of these clutch less fan setups I have been getting fabricated.

Inspired by the clutch eliminator from Flexalite. These clutch less fan setups replace the clutch on 300 tdi and V8 defender with V-belts. Clockwise rotation and I source the 7 blade fan for increased airflow. Have a few I can sell separate from my own needs.

These are for the non serpentine belt late model rover V8. Parts from Flexalite will work for the serpentine belt engine. Search desert cooling for those part numbers. This hub I am having made is not available anywhere else to my knowledge.

And I have made allowances for use with the 300 tdi diesel engine with serpentine belt as well. Works well in the summer months. And you can switch back to the stock fan clutch and blades in colder climate.

250.00 plus shipping. Much less then the cost of factory fan clutch and blade. Which are not really up to the task.

PM to get in line on this.
I will have more made if there is a demand.
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Old July 6th, 2010, 12:18 PM
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Cool.

How much louder is it?
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Old July 6th, 2010, 04:57 PM
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The stock D-90 setup sucks.

I am running a RRC fan and a Hayden clutch lost a good amount of power and fuel mileage but it runs cool now.

What are the power and fuel losses like with that above setup? This seems like an excellent alternative.
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Old July 6th, 2010, 06:25 PM
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I just started having an overheating issue at idle. It hasn't been a problem while driving. I only noticed it at idle and doing some slow off road driving. I wonder how much of a help this would be. I am interested .
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Old July 6th, 2010, 06:56 PM
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I'm just curious, is it the mods that are causing the overheating issues? My stock '95 seems fine even at 100 degrees with or without A/C (I don't tow anything). I've even got a 7 blade D90 fan/clutch in my RRC (no A/C) and don't have any issues. In fact, I really like the D90 clutch and fan in the RRC because it is quieter than the stock 11 blade one. The RRC is lightly moded with 235/85, OME springs, bumper/winch.
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Old July 6th, 2010, 07:00 PM
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fan

sorry not to detract but I have found that my D-90's cooling system needs to be filled under a vacume which I have a shop do. Otherwise I can't get enough coolant throughout the engine.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 06:28 AM
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I'm just curious, is it the mods that are causing the overheating issues? My stock '95 seems fine even at 100 degrees with or without A/C (I don't tow anything). I've even got a 7 blade D90 fan/clutch in my RRC (no A/C) and don't have any issues. In fact, I really like the D90 clutch and fan in the RRC because it is quieter than the stock 11 blade one. The RRC is lightly moded with 235/85, OME springs, bumper/winch.
Thats bc you are running a stock gauge.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 07:16 AM
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Thats bc you are running a stock gauge.
I guess that explains it then!
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Old July 7th, 2010, 09:44 AM
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You can find out for yourself. Trade you for a set of doors or a Puma bonnet? He he

These setups seem to cancel out some diesel clatter. When used with the diesel engine. They roar on the gas engine. The 7 blade is an improvement over the 6 blade as far as how loud the roar is. Pretend its a supercharger and get your Chuck Norris on.





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Cool.

How much louder is it?
------ Follow up post added July 7th, 2010 08:48 AM ------

Power loss seems minimal. Expecially compared to a locked up fan clutch. Which is like trying to pass on a two lane highway in 5th gear with the A/C on.

Give it a try, I think this suits your needs well.

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The stock D-90 setup sucks.

I am running a RRC fan and a Hayden clutch lost a good amount of power and fuel mileage but it runs cool now.

What are the power and fuel losses like with that above setup? This seems like an excellent alternative.
------ Follow up post added July 7th, 2010 08:56 AM ------

Appreciate the feedback here Frank. Many of the trucks are operating just as you describe. Without temperature issues. Call it operator error if you like. Loan your truck to your leadfoot brother-in-law on a very hot day and see what happens. Or turn up the fuel, put a 4.6 short block in, run a better camshaft.

So I guess I agree. It is the mods and the different driving habits. As well as different climates that require some increased cooling. But this is really a better discussion for the tech section. This is a simple for sale post.


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I'm just curious, is it the mods that are causing the overheating issues? My stock '95 seems fine even at 100 degrees with or without A/C (I don't tow anything). I've even got a 7 blade D90 fan/clutch in my RRC (no A/C) and don't have any issues. In fact, I really like the D90 clutch and fan in the RRC because it is quieter than the stock 11 blade one. The RRC is lightly moded with 235/85, OME springs, bumper/winch.
------ Follow up post added July 7th, 2010 09:01 AM ------

This is a good point. About filling the cooling system. Carefully bleeding the air out of the system by other methods will achieve this as well.

Maybe you would like to buy one of these fan setups because of the pretty looking fan blades? Even if you do not have a cooling issue it could be a neat fashion accessory?

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sorry not to detract but I have found that my D-90's cooling system needs to be filled under a vacume which I have a shop do. Otherwise I can't get enough coolant throughout the engine.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 12:32 PM
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I run one of these on my big Olds and it is downright scary.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 02:04 PM
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Which particular flex fan do you run? There are a number of different choices. What is scary about it? The noise? The bugs it pulls into the radiator? The smile on your face as you tune into the sound of the prop and feel like you are flying?


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I run one of these on my big Olds and it is downright scary.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 02:16 PM
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What is scary about it?
The thought of feeling my dismembered fingers hitting me in the face before I even see what happened. At least with a weak rover fan clutch and a plastic fan I feel like I have half a chance, one wrong move with a flex fan and the next thing you know you are putting what you can find in a bag of ice and headed to the ER
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Old July 7th, 2010, 02:22 PM
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They do have a plastic blade available. It would fit this hub setup.

Be sure not to check your running engine on your Olds when your have the suit and tie on. Might tie a new knot.

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The thought of feeling my dismembered fingers hitting me in the face before I even see what happened. At least with a weak rover fan clutch and a plastic fan I feel like I have half a chance, one wrong move with a flex fan and the next thing you know you are putting what you can find in a bag of ice and headed to the ER
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Old July 7th, 2010, 07:37 PM
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Send me one for a 300 and I'll give it a go and report back. I have a full width intercooler (doesn't 'help' cooling the engine and the 2.8 PS turbo set up, adds heat because of more mojo throughout the powerband.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 09:23 PM
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Okay Keith

I will have one headed your way next week.



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Send me one for a 300 and I'll give it a go and report back. I have a full width intercooler (doesn't 'help' cooling the engine and the 2.8 PS turbo set up, adds heat because of more mojo throughout the powerband.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 11:08 PM
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Sounds like you are in the market fr a 12v freezer/fridge...

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Pendy, with the hub/lockup, is the spacing (front to back) the same as the stock fan and clutch?
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Old July 8th, 2010, 07:08 PM
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Pendy, with the hub/lockup, is the spacing (front to back) the same as the stock fan and clutch?

Yes that is how I am setting them up.

I can make it a little thinner if need be as well. If your radiator is pushed back towards the fan. Best to have it 3/4" to 1" from the radiator if possible. The stock setup is farther away. Measure yours now and we can adjust from there.

Let me know.
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Weird,
So far my 300tdi is doing fine sitting in traffic (even though I look like i jumped in a pool fully clothed) in DC's 100+ weather the last few days
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Weird,
So far my 300tdi is doing fine sitting in traffic (even though I look like i jumped in a pool fully clothed) in DC's 100+ weather the last few days
Diesels run cool in traffic-put one under load and its a different story.
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