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Old October 5th, 2016, 08:57 AM
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RRC ABS Elimination "kit"

I have all the parts necessary to change the ABS system to a regular standard braking system. All factory parts from an older non abs truck. Bolt in. No cutting drilling or re-plumbing. I have all the factory lines master cylinder reservoir booster/factory shim, brake fluid switch and proportion valve. Looks and works like factory.









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Old October 5th, 2016, 09:16 AM
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This is tempting.
I was talking with another RRC enthusiast at MAR about the ever dwindling availability of working ABS pumps for Classics.
One of mine is a '91 Hunter(non-ABS) and the other is a '93 LWB but its a 300Tdi.
What would be required to convert a Tdi ABS system to standard brakes?

Also, is there a legal issue removing the ABS system completely from a 1993 vehicle?


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Old October 5th, 2016, 09:29 AM
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Not sure about the TDI trucks. I would assume they'd have same brakes but I have no idea.

No idea on the legality. Not sure how anyone would contest such a thing.

Also I wanted to mention that the donor truck was a lifetime desert vehicle. So the lines and parts have zero rust. The brakes worked fine before I removed them
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Old October 5th, 2016, 02:37 PM
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In Pa the inspection requirement says the ABS need not work.
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Old October 5th, 2016, 08:43 PM
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Old October 6th, 2016, 01:44 PM
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My 92 RRC had no ABS, much more reliable. It went into a friends truck when that one rusted to bits.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 02:41 PM
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My 92 RRC had no ABS, much more reliable. It went into a friends truck when that one rusted to bits.
Same here on my '92
The base models in that year came without ABS/ Sway bars and less wooden trim to keep costs down.

The ABS breaks, wooden trim fades/chips, so ironically the cheaper models in '92 are more wanted /valuable now!
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Old October 6th, 2016, 04:10 PM
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The abs in these trucks is very unsafe. When it fails you loses all braking.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 05:42 PM
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I've never had one fail. Just leak. I just hate the complexity and that stupid pump coming on everytime I start the truck.
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Old October 7th, 2016, 04:47 AM
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The abs in these trucks is very unsafe. When it fails you loses all braking.
Is that a real thing? I can't tell how many I've repaired and never seen one totally fail. The only total failures witnessed have been highly botched conversions and shade tree 'fixes'.
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I had one fail on me while on a family trip to the smokeys and I had absolutely no brake assist. It was harder to stop than my old classic car. I didn't feel safe the entire drive home.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 10:03 AM
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Old November 1st, 2016, 11:16 AM
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Is that a real thing? I can't tell how many I've repaired and never seen one totally fail. The only total failures witnessed have been highly botched conversions and shade tree 'fixes'.
Really?
Mine is a 93 LWB-totally stock system.
When the pump fails you'd better plan for about 2 city blocks stopping distance....


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Old November 1st, 2016, 11:43 AM
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Either you believe in the magic, or you don't. Wabco makes ABS braking systems for commercial aircraft, so they aren't exactly a bunch of knuckleheads.

PS so what about the calipers up front? You don't mention exchanging them for non ABS...
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Old November 1st, 2016, 11:52 AM
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PS so what about the calipers up front? You don't mention exchanging them for non ABS...

There is no difference. When ordering a caliper for my '92 Non-ABS, I was leaning towards getting the '87-'89 calipers, since they were the only non-abs ones I could find.

After a quick phone call, they told me to order the '90-'93 ABS calipers since there is no difference, and that is the correct year.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 12:26 PM
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Only difference in calipers is vented or not vented discs. These lines only go to the union in the fender well of the hard lines/flexible lines for the caliper. It literally just eliminates the abs portion of the brake system. The only other part that's different is that this system only needs one line to feed the rear circuit. The other line is simply abandoned.

All this sounds much more complicated than it is. The pictures above are from my truck. I personally did this a couple years ago and this system is still going strong. No issues or concerns. It actually brakes much better this way.
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