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Old August 13th, 2012, 03:18 PM
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NAS 90 Mounting pictures

NAS 90 Mounting Pictures. Attached are pictures of how the NAS 90 mounts to the Fuel Tank cradle. Please PM me if you interested in a copy.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 03:24 PM
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NAS 110 Step bumper

NAS 110 Step bumper - Attached are pictures of how the NAS 110 affixes to the frame. I believe this is how the ROWs fit as well. Notice that the 90 fits on the outside of the tank cradle whereas the 110 affixes on the inside of the frame. So if you notice the bolt for the tow eye is the same bolt that goes through the frame and secures the lower bumper mount to the frame.
Please PM if you are interested in a copy. Also if you are interested in one for a NAS 110, I can have the tabs welded on for the ladder.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 05:58 PM
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a trailer hitch that doesn't extend up and attach to the frame like these step bumpers do is only good for very light duty-ie towing a jet ski or similar. The rear crossmember is made of thin 14 gauge steel and is not suitable as a single point of attachment, no matter how many bolts you put through it or how thick your backing plate is. Trust me on this I have twisted crossmember(s). The additional attachment points the NAS spec bumpers have make them the best hitches for towing. I have attached NAS 90 bumpers to numerous early 110's with a minor reversible modification. I did this so I could use the bumper on either a 90 or a 110.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 06:22 PM
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Doug,
I appreciate your input and thank you. I have attached a picture of an NAS 90 step bumper. I will post a pic of the 110 off of the NAS later today.
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a trailer hitch that doesn't extend up and attach to the frame like these step bumpers do is only good for very light duty-ie towing a jet ski or similar. The rear crossmember is made of thin 14 gauge steel and is not suitable as a single point of attachment, no matter how many bolts you put through it or how thick your backing plate is. Trust me on this I have twisted crossmember(s). The additional attachment points the NAS spec bumpers have make them the best hitches for towing. I have attached NAS 90 bumpers to numerous early 110's with a minor reversible modification. I did this so I could use the bumper on either a 90 or a 110.
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Old August 14th, 2012, 12:18 AM
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a trailer hitch that doesn't extend up and attach to the frame like these step bumpers do is only good for very light duty-ie towing a jet ski or similar. The rear crossmember is made of thin 14 gauge steel and is not suitable as a single point of attachment, no matter how many bolts you put through it or how thick your backing plate is. Trust me on this I have twisted crossmember(s). The additional attachment points the NAS spec bumpers have make them the best hitches for towing. I have attached NAS 90 bumpers to numerous early 110's with a minor reversible modification. I did this so I could use the bumper on either a 90 or a 110.
Backing up Doug here, I needed some stout towing capacity so went with a NAS 90 bumper on my ROW 110 with some "extensions" that can be seen here:
http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...5&postcount=14

Galpin made them for me, but they are very simple....two plates with a total of 4 holes drilled.
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Old August 14th, 2012, 12:41 AM
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so it looks like the 110 NAS version would bolt right up to your truck without having extensions correct? Can you confirm that you can access the other side of your extension frame bolt with no problem?
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------ Follow up post added August 14th, 2012 12:48 AM ------

Folks,
I think it is safe to say that I can produce a ROW step bumper using the NAS 1993 110 version as a copy. So if anyone is interested let me know as I will have to give the one to copy back to its owner within the next week. I will take deposits and gets these done if folks are interested. If not, we should just kill the thread and move on.
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Old August 14th, 2012, 01:28 AM
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Old August 14th, 2012, 09:39 AM
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Jason,
so it looks like the 110 NAS version would bolt right up to your truck without having extensions correct? Can you confirm that you can access the other side of your extension frame bolt with no problem?
Clay
That is correct, I can access the other side of the extension frame bolt without issue. However, it's hard to tell exactly where the NAS 110 bolts up - is it just the inside of the frame extensions? If folks don't mind the separate set of tabs coming off the NAS 90 step you could just go that route and one version works for all - or if you don't mind doing a separate run then of course the 110 step should work for those with ROW 110s.
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Seemingly there is more interest in 110 bumpers than 90 ones. The 110 is a much better choice for towing and these bumpers add a lot of versatility to the truck. Yes they change your departure angle if you off road a lot. I countered this with 3 inches of lift and 33's. I think it would be great if these were available again. I import a lot of trucks with the UK knock off version that doesn't have the 3 inch receiver tube. Those have a thick plate there for a bolt on hitch which can be modified and a receiver tube welded in whch is what folks have been doing.
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Seemingly there is more interest in 110 bumpers than 90 ones. The 110 is a much better choice for towing and these bumpers add a lot of versatility to the truck. Yes they change your departure angle if you off road a lot. I countered this with 3 inches of lift and 33's. I think it would be great if these were available again. I import a lot of trucks with the UK knock off version that doesn't have the 3 inch receiver tube. Those have a thick plate there for a bolt on hitch which can be modified and a receiver tube welded in whch is what folks have been doing.
With the uk knock off version, if you add the tube, can't you bend the bumper like you would with just outing the recover tube on the crossmember? Why does the uk use a different standard? Looking at pics I don't get the purpose of their design.
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Jason,
I don't mind making two seperate batches as there is not much difference except for the underside mounts. Yep just on the inside of the frame.
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That is correct, I can access the other side of the extension frame bolt without issue. However, it's hard to tell exactly where the NAS 110 bolts up - is it just the inside of the frame extensions? If folks don't mind the separate set of tabs coming off the NAS 90 step you could just go that route and one version works for all - or if you don't mind doing a separate run then of course the 110 step should work for those with ROW 110s.
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any idea what these are going to run? 500? or less if more people get on board?

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Old August 14th, 2012, 01:26 PM
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I am going to talk to the fab shop in about 1/2 hour.
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Old August 14th, 2012, 03:28 PM
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Fyi shipping seems to be $90 or less. less is closer to me or a business address.
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Definitely interested. '95 NAS 90.
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O.k. - Great news fitted the NAS 110 step bumper to a 1984 ROW 110 fit perfectly. Price is confirmed at $500 plus shipping. I will include the bolts but not the tread plate mat. Machine shop will start on them next week after the tire carriers. PM me for deposit info.

PLEASE NOTE - IF YOU NEED AN EXACT COPY OF A NAS 110 PM ME. The NAS 110 has 2 extra little tabs for the long ladder I did not plan on the shop putting this on all copies. I will post pictures later of today's fitment to the 1984 ROW 110 - Jay thank you again!!!!

------ Follow up post added August 16th, 2012 05:45 PM ------

Peter is in for an NAS 90 replica - so far he is the only one.... if anyone else is in for an NAS Please PM me. I think I will need at least 5 in to do the NAS 90 version.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 07:55 PM
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Pics as promised with NAS 110 step bumper on 84 ROW truck.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 11:08 PM
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Whatsthe cutoff to know on a 110 bumper and approx shipping to 22312?
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Old August 18th, 2012, 01:31 AM
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