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Old June 17th, 2010, 07:06 PM
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Trade Tdi 110 for an LR3???

Been drinking crazy juice and thinking of trading my 110 for an LR3. It'd be my truck ($35k) for your LR3 plus cash. Been daydreaming about building an LR3

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Old June 17th, 2010, 07:19 PM
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If only you still had your 90 as I want to downsize.... (and if my lr3 was completely paid off).
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Old June 17th, 2010, 09:48 PM
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Old June 17th, 2010, 09:59 PM
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Does the LR3 have to be un-gayed as well?
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Old June 17th, 2010, 10:21 PM
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Does the LR3 have to be un-gayed as well?
That picture actually hurt my eyes.

We have an LR3 and I wouldn't go near a modfest on it.
You would be better getting a 04 disco and building that up.

Why on earth would you trade down to an LR3 from your 110???

If you are looking for more comfort, why not work on doing that to your 110?
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Old June 18th, 2010, 05:31 AM
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That picture actually hurt my eyes.

We have an LR3 and I wouldn't go near a modfest on it.
You would be better getting a 04 disco and building that up.

Why on earth would you trade down to an LR3 from your 110???

If you are looking for more comfort, why not work on doing that to your 110?
I've already got $16k in mods into the 110 already, and can't justify spending any more to make it more family safe/friendly (LHD, AC, etc). I've been looking at Discos as well. Just trying to think outside the box. I really like the LR3s though....
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Old June 18th, 2010, 07:20 AM
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tempting offer

however let me tell you a few LR3 secrets, I have a 2005 hse loaded with all the goodies. I will tell you that when i am asked (not counting my 90), it is my favorite truck. ( and I have owned quite a few) but with out a lift or a pit you can"t change oil. It costs me 180. at the service station and 115 at the dealer. You need to remove a grouping of plates to get to the filter. I have 65k miles and are on third set of 400 dollar a piece low profiles. Cost plus high speed balance and alignment arount 1800 bucks every two years. Brake twice at dealer 1600 bucks, electronic release emergency brake sheared off years ago after it frooze and would not release.
Went to replace with an LR 4 which was not longer manly so i passed.
But once you get used to the 8 mpg around town and the 15 on the highway its a dream to drive.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 10:57 AM
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however let me tell you a few LR3 secrets, I have a 2005 hse loaded with all the goodies. I will tell you that when i am asked (not counting my 90), it is my favorite truck. ( and I have owned quite a few) but with out a lift or a pit you can"t change oil. It costs me 180. at the service station and 115 at the dealer. You need to remove a grouping of plates to get to the filter. I have 65k miles and are on third set of 400 dollar a piece low profiles. Cost plus high speed balance and alignment arount 1800 bucks every two years. Brake twice at dealer 1600 bucks, electronic release emergency brake sheared off years ago after it frooze and would not release.
Went to replace with an LR 4 which was not longer manly so i passed.
But once you get used to the 8 mpg around town and the 15 on the highway its a dream to drive.
For the oil, just drive up on a couple of ramps ... i usually put them on cross axle tires to lift the whole truck up... put it in offroad mode and you can get under there without a problem... taking the 12 bolts off to get the skidplates off is a pain though, but an air ratchet/impact gun makes it go fast enough... just through a floor jack under it so you can catch it. I use Mobil 1 5w30 on mine and I buy it at Costcos for $33/case of 6.. of course you need 8, so you have to plan ahead. Oil filter is $15, so its about $59 or so to do it yourself.

Definitely replace the tires with something else, the Good-forone-Year's that came with them aren't the greatest, but there are good alternatives, and you can put them on 18" rims. You can just do regular balancing anywhere, the alignment is pricey though because you need to go to the dealer to do it properly apparently.

I get on average about 11-13mpg city and anywhere from 18-22mpg highway.

That being said, I do love my LR3 for it's comfort, it's offroad ability (locking rear diff & TC really do work amazingly), space, etc.. but I'd trade it up for a D90 ST if the right one came around.. I don't *need* the comfort. Plus, there's just too much on the LR3 that I wouldn't want to work on myself, hence why I got a 100k warranty with it.
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I was getting 30mpg out of my LR3
You guys have diesel ones with Imperial gallons, so you're cheating.
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why would you trade something that is appreciating, for something that is depreciating?? Just seems like a better investment to park the 110, and buy an LR3 if you really want it...
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Sell the 110, buy/trade for an LR3, and buy Janey. Done and done.
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why would you trade something that is appreciating, for something that is depreciating?? Just seems like a better investment to park the 110, and buy an LR3 if you really want it...
Oddly enough I think my 2006 LR3 has appreciated since I bought it used.. I don't get it... My D2 tanked though shortly after I bought it.
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I understand where you are coming from. 110s short of fully rebuilding aren't that comfortable. Sure it is better than a 90 but still it isn't like a modern truck. Everyone thinks they can just add this and that like heated seats to make it more practical. It is still not like driving a modern LR. It is a toy that you can try to use a practical car but it is always going to come up short. Plus with the type of truck you have you are throwing the money in a hole. I mean of course someone will pay you extra because you have a tuffy and a nice radio but otherwise it is a pit.
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We have a 05 LR3, it has been the best LR we've ever owned (my 91 RR hasnt had any problems either because it sits in a storage unit!). However, if I had to decide between a Tdi 110 or an LR3, I'd take the 110 and accept its faults.

The LR3 has been great to own though. Oil changes are pretty easy except for the aforementioned skid plates on the bottom, but they are off in 10 minutes. We've been getting 19 mpgs (based on the computer) on the highway.

RMuller, just an FYI the Mobil 1 5w30 doesnt meet the Ford WSS M2C929-A spec. Only oil I have found that does is Castrol Syntec 5w30.
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Has anyone heard of this happening anywhere else? I look at all of my customer's LR3's for this and haven't seen anything out of sorts.


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Uummm...no lift needed for an oil change, I do it in my garage all the time using nothing more than a wrench to take the skid plates off. Also just did full brakes and rotors fom AB for $282...you're crazy to pay $1600 at the dealer - all you need is the parts and a 17mm & 19mm wrench. Jonathan - my advice, keep the 110 if you have the garage space and pick up a used '05 LR3 for high $teens as your daily driver. Although I end up using the 110 as the daily because let's face it - it's more fun and you look like less of a yuppie @sshole. Which I am, but don't need to advertise : ).
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After the vodka in my kool-aid wore off I slowly came to my senses. I still might build a Disco though. The 110 is cool and awesome off road, I just miss A/C and some other creature comforts. And despite an "appreciating" value (yeah, right), it's money pit at this point. It's pretty hard to get more than $35-$40K for a ROW '81 110 unless it's a frame off restoration IMO.
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