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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:08 PM
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When do you plan to come back to the USA?

If you plan to come back let's say in two years. You can buy a 1990 today and you'll be able to import it.

By then the truck will be 25 years old and you will be good to go.

And that also gives you 2 years to do a chassis up rebuild on a brand new galv chassis. There you go, a 'new' 25yr old truck
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:45 PM
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A lot of bad information/advice here.

ANY modification from original whatsoever can render a vehicle not eligible for import. I have had a customs officer say that he "could" deny entry for something as minor as seats had been upgraded. Galvanized chassis, engine swaps, new seats, power windows, central locking, td5 dashes, restoration before shipping, can all result in a vehicle being denied entry.

DOT now has a Defender "specialist" and enforcement has ratcheted up considerably in recent months. Ie trucks with modifications suggested by arm chair experts above are being denied entry.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:49 PM
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A lot of bad information/advice here.

ANY modification from original whatsoever can render a vehicle not eligible for import. I have had a customs officer say that he "could" deny entry for something as minor as seats had been upgraded. Galvanized chassis, engine swaps, new seats, power windows, central locking, td5 dashes, restoration before shipping, can all result in a vehicle being denied entry.

DOT now has a Defender "specialist" and enforcement has ratcheted up considerably in recent months. Ie trucks with modifications suggested by arm chair experts above are being denied entry.
Sounds serious.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:54 PM
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A defender can never meet crash standards, the engines are not EPA approved ... It's a waste of time.
Nor can the mandated (since 1998) airbags be retrofit which is why Land Rover NA stopped importing them
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:12 PM
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A lot of bad information/advice here.

ANY modification from original whatsoever can render a vehicle not eligible for import. I have had a customs officer say that he "could" deny entry for something as minor as seats had been upgraded. Galvanized chassis, engine swaps, new seats, power windows, central locking, td5 dashes, restoration before shipping, can all result in a vehicle being denied entry.

DOT now has a Defender "specialist" and enforcement has ratcheted up considerably in recent months. Ie trucks with modifications suggested by arm chair experts above are being denied entry.
The 'good old days' of 2012 puma's coming in as 109 series trucks are over then?
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This "armchair expert" based his advice on actual experience from personally importing a 110 from Germany in May 2011. Things change and if you're not coming back for 3 years then your mileage may vary. One thing will not change...you still won't be able to bring back a new Defender with you.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:20 PM
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This "armchair expert" based his advice on actual experience from personally importing a 110 from Germany in May 2011. Things change and if you're not coming back for 3 years then your mileage may vary. One thing will not change...you still won't be able to bring back a new Defender with you.

Free advice is worth what you pay for it. The law has not changed @ all but yes trucks that were no problem in 2011 would be folly now. Just because some ones vehicle made it in without issue does not mean that they were compliant which is why DOT's upset.
Your 300tdi for instance. Don't get me wrong, I'm in the same boat, your advice just isn't contemporary.


My .02 would be to import an all original truck and then do whatever you want to it once its here. That continues to be completely legal.
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"1980" sigh...
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That will actually happen on ebay.com everytime because all 90's,110's, 127's before 1987 had non-conforming VIN's and ebay doesn't recognize them and everything gets the 1980 treatment by ebay us.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:57 PM
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That will actually happen on ebay.com everytime because all 90's,110's, 127's before 1987 had non-conforming VIN's and ebay doesn't recognize them and everything gets the 1980 treatment by ebay us.
The price is just nuts. I was more "frowny" that someone imported and rebuilt.

"Condition: As-New 1985 frame restored to 2011 Spec; The only legally imported D90 Puma Diesel on US SOIL."
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The price is just nuts. I was more "frowny" that someone imported and rebuilt.

"Condition: As-New 1985 frame restored to 2011 Spec; The only legally imported D90 Puma Diesel on US SOIL."
BS they more likely vin swapped.
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I am confused. Has part of this thread been edited out? Seems like Post #1 is starting in the middle of an ongoing dialogue...
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I am confused. Has part of this thread been edited out? Seems like Post #1 is starting in the middle of an ongoing dialogue...
No, it's been like that from the start...I think he was just looking to initiate a new discussion based on those comments so started a separate thread.
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