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Old August 27th, 2005, 01:27 AM
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Old August 27th, 2005, 07:48 AM
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pm me rovrnut@hotmail.com or call (818) 360-2349. i am very interested.

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Old August 27th, 2005, 09:01 PM
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i think many of us are dying to know how you did it.
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Old August 27th, 2005, 09:09 PM
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Heh,

1.pack it in a container surrounded by Series III's.

or

2. Take the steering wheel off and have Joe Bloke send it over from Merry Ole England as "parts"

or

3. Get friendly with the customs guys and get them to take you on a tour of the seized vehicle storage facility and have them leave the gate open after work. *This is my guess, as the car obviously sat rather than drove. Then before it was "crushed" it got misplaced nudge nudge wink wink

or

4. Have your German cousin import the car on a tourist visa and leave it here.

or

5. Convince someone in customs that it's for farm use (and with that low mileage it would be under the limit)

Lots of ways it can be "done"

I'd bet a Guinness the Title says it's a 1974 Series III.
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Old August 28th, 2005, 09:31 AM
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If its available to look at, I would be interested in seeing it. I am in Fort Lauderdale.
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Old August 28th, 2005, 03:58 PM
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Wait wait, what is this farm use loophole? I've never heard of it before and I sure as $hit could talk some of my farm buddies into needing one or two of these. We've got farm tags on a truck now, can I import it and go for it?
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Old August 28th, 2005, 04:04 PM
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Old August 28th, 2005, 04:41 PM
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I can tell you that it costs substantially more to purchase and get it here than the truck is being offered at. Not to mention the all the hoops and hassle.
Which makes it even more sketchy.

If it's totally legal and legit why not sell it for what you know it could bring? Isn't that the way things work here in the Good Ol' USofA? Or are you taking a loss out of the kindness of your heart and the love of Defenders? I'd figure a legit, brand-new 2004, if it was possible, would easily bring $50K or more. Everyone here knows that $35K is way too low an asking price for a new TD5. Trust me, if anyone here thought they could buy and keep that truck I'm sure they'd be all over it. But we know, as well as you, that something's wrong here. You came here knowing that we'd ask questions. So why not answer them or hit the road? Or were you hoping for a sucker to bail y'all out of a big mistake before DOT finds your truck and turns it into a pile of ground up scrap?
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Old August 28th, 2005, 04:59 PM
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Old August 28th, 2005, 06:36 PM
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ok...I guess thats that. I never claimed that everything was completely neat and clean as far as the DOT...We are all aware of this issue, there is no way around that. I am absolutely not trying to "sucker" anyone, and I don't think I came off that way either.

And the reason why the truck is listed for 35k is precisely because of the obvious issues mentioned.


I am saying that the truck is titled correctly, period. No mix-matched vin's or anything of the sort.

It's pretty unfair to attack me like this, man. I am happy to discuss the truck with anyone seriously interested.
Who's attacking you? Besides the FBI, of course. We all want to know how you got a truck that should have a $150,000 fine attached to it (like a certain orange 110 recently discovered). Post a pic of the title. You do realize that by advertising on a bb like this you are opening yourself for closer scrtutiny than you probably want, right?
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Old August 28th, 2005, 10:41 PM
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I really dont get this.....I offer a great truck at a great price that can be used for many purposes..strictly off-roading, hunting vehicle, work horse, stripped down and modified into an awesome rock crawler...whatever. .only to be treated like I'm selling child porn or something???

Just figured someone would get alot of enjoyment out of it.

THE TRUCK IS NO LONGER FOR SALE.

Thanks and happy rovering!
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Old August 30th, 2005, 07:34 PM
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THE TRUCK IS NO LONGER FOR SALE.... ???

I guess what we would all like to know is.... how did you get it here? Did someone actually buy it? Are you keeping it for yourself? Is it in the country? Does it actually exist? (no offence intended, but more than one person has tried to sell a truck in North America, while it's still overseas)

I have seen trucks like this listed on Ebay and get pulled beacuse they aren't legal.


Guys bringing in parts and re-assembling them here and claiming them as salvage or custom built. But I don't think I know of anyone that just happened to have one for sale.

No doubt it's a great truck, and I think just about anyone here would love to have it, but it all seems a little to mysterious. Everyone here seems to share information.... so.....
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Old August 30th, 2005, 09:58 PM
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Well, unfortunately the questions and responses I got from this post haven't been just friendly curiousity such as yours.


I'm aware as well as everyone else is that this would be an extremely rare find. I naturally cannot post certain info in detail, and that should be basically understood. What I did post was sincere and honest. However, I never expected to be treated this way by fellow rover enthusiasts. It's almost like the members of this site were angered to see this truck or something.

Anyway, no hard feelings towards anyone, and no point in continuing this thread. I've already decided to hang on to it, make some cool mod's, and put it to some good use.

Thanks again.
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Old September 7th, 2005, 04:02 PM
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This looks very familar to a thread I saw not to long ago about another guy with new defender's. Is everyone that jealous? With enough money and smarts you can do just about anything. No reason to assault a guy who might have figured it out.
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Old September 7th, 2005, 04:32 PM
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No, the issue is that there have been too many scams in the past that have burned people believing in that very line of thinking that "maybe this guy figured it out", and when it came down to it, they didn't except how to scam people out of money. Its already known how to do it, its very publicly recorded both on this site numerous times as well as the governments own websites and documentation. So when someone comes along with one of these "rare" finds, people are naturally leery if the truck is actually here, and rightly so giving the past history of the scams.

I am not implying that this seller was involved in this kind of activity but again, with the past scams that have been played out, its not unreasonable for people to ask how the truck was brought here and titled. I don't know what your income is that $35,000 may not be a lot of money for you to lose should flags get tossed up and the truck get impounded forever, but for the rest of us, its a huge pile of money to loose or risk on "just his word".

Most people that have turned out to be legit in selling these "grey market" trucks, usually have no issues with disclosing how the truck got there because they know, its going to be a major point of inquiry that a lot base the possible purchase on.
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Old September 7th, 2005, 09:40 PM
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Both of you guys make valid arguments.

Chris, you're absolutely right in the point you make about past scams and such involving these trucks. I did however, make it very clear that the truck of course has the expected DOT issues which as far as I know, cannot be circumvented at this time. I also would never ask any potential buyer to pay for something except in person and upon seeing and driving the vehicle. Once again, certain questions could not just be answered publicly in the thread. Of course this info. would have been furnished to the seriously interested party.

Now, as far as David's comments....yes, the main problem here was the fact that I was being assaulted with harsh criticism, and accusations as part of an assumption that this truck could not be for real, and that my intentions were less than honest.

It is for this reason that I just decided to hang on to it, enjoy it, and avoid any further negative feedback, which again was a bit more than I expected to receive.

Also, keep in mind that it's not the Crown Jewels that we're taking about bringing here, it's just a piece of machinery.
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Old September 8th, 2005, 09:05 AM
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I agree, i'm sure many people have been burned by "suspect" vehicles or false advertising.

Let me ask this question, to everyone. If someone could tell all of you a way to bring a TD5 defender into this country with out the risk of getting in trouble or paying through the nose wouldn't you be interested to hear how and want one for yourself? I think the answer from most here would be YES. This is the second person that I have seen being crucified because they have diesel defender (this thread a little more low key then the other), wouldn't it have been a little smarter to befriend a person like this in hopes that they have contacts or the knowledge to possibly get you a TD5 defender? Heck- I could use 25mpg right now with gas prices at $3.50/gallon. The way I see it you are just burning bridges with people that very well could become an asset to what is a hobby / way of life for some of us. Just an opinion. Turbod5- e-mail me if you want to speak to a serious buyer. jacketmfg@hotmail.com
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Old September 8th, 2005, 09:24 AM
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blah blah blah I was being assaulted with harsh criticism, and accusations as part of an assumption that this truck could not be for real, and that my intentions were less than honest.
Oh please, what a cry baby. Do you want some french cries and a wa-burger? What version of reality to do live in? All anyone wanted was proof that the vehicle was in the country and was OK with the DOT. Instead of providing that, which should be easy if you're being up front with everyone, you "erased" your trail once people started asking for specifics. So yes, your actions and ludicrous repeating of the word "assaulted" has resulted in your intentions being interpreted as dishonest.

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I agree, i'm sure many people have been burned by "suspect" vehicles or false advertising.

Let me ask this question, to everyone. If someone could tell all of you a way to bring a TD5 defender into this country with out the risk of getting in trouble or paying through the nose wouldn't you be interested to hear how and want one for yourself? I think the answer from most here would be YES. This is the second person that I have seen being crucified because they have diesel defender (this thread a little more low key then the other), wouldn't it have been a little smarter to befriend a person like this in hopes that they have contacts or the knowledge to possibly get you a TD5 defender? Heck- I could use 25mpg right now with gas prices at $3.50/gallon. The way I see it you are just burning bridges with people that very well could become an asset to what is a hobby / way of life for some of us. Just an opinion. Turbod5- e-mail me if you want to speak to a serious buyer. jacketmfg@hotmail.com
Illiegally importing a vehicle is not a good way to get a diesel engine into your Defender. No one is jealous of a td5 Defender. It's super easy to get a 300 tdi or 2.8 into your Defender. He is not being crucified because he has a diesel motor. He is being questioned because he claims to have a vehicle in the country FOR SALE when the only legal provisions for bringing that vehicle into the country FORBID the sale of such vehicle while it is here. If you want to buy his td5, then go right ahead. If Land Rovers were really a way of life for you, you'd already know that this particular bridge has been burnt long ago.
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Old September 8th, 2005, 09:38 AM
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I'm very well aware of the 300TDI and 2.8, as I'm sure you are. So you know the work and hassle putting one into a NAS D-90.... in my opinion i'd prefer to buy a D-90 already designed and built with a TD5 or 300TDI and if there is a way to do that I would love to know how. That's all i'm saying.
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Old September 8th, 2005, 09:41 AM
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I agree, i'm sure many people have been burned by "suspect" vehicles or false advertising.

Let me ask this question, to everyone. If someone could tell all of you a way to bring a TD5 defender into this country with out the risk of getting in trouble or paying through the nose wouldn't you be interested to hear how and want one for yourself? I think the answer from most here would be YES.
You are missing the point. If the truck is LEGAL, has a correct VIN and the customs docs to show. then their is no reason for Mr. Turbo to hide. Yet he's hiding behind the curtain of "I can't post because it should be mutually understood..." blah, blah, blah. The discussion is straight forward. Post the important, relavant information if he has nothing to hide. Otherwise, pull up your pants and run home to mommy.

Most of us here already know plenty of illegal ways to bring those trucks in. What's the point? If he has a legal way, then share it.

Besides, td5's suck. Who wants an ECU controlled diesel engine? It defeats the purpose of diesel.
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