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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:07 PM
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Someone buy the truck already so we can put all this behind us!
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Old January 29th, 2008, 12:29 AM
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Old January 29th, 2008, 01:29 AM
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I was thinking the checklist would be good towards a 'future' Defender.

Jesse, I think that's a tough call. Did you plan on restoring this truck yourself or having someone do it? If it was me, I'd make an offer on it.

As far as Martin is concerned...I don't know him personally...but he's done enough business on here for me to consider him reputable. As he stated, he's assisting a friend with a sale, in the end you will probably work with the actual seller and not him.
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I would restore it myself. I still have buddies in the body business with great paint booths for shooting it when I'm done with the body.

After reading Mike's eval, I'm now more concerned about the engine and drive train. Relatively speaking, the body restoration is a breeze against having to pull an engine or drop a transmission for more critical repairs. I can replace a cross member, repair lights, do electrical, pumps, seals, etc., but I do not want to replace an engine or transmission after dropping $40k. If it's going to get that expensive for a restore, then I might as well just bite the bullet and start looking at the NAS's with much lower mileage.

I'm not worried about Martin. We've been emailing back and forth and he appears to be a stand-up guy. But with all due respect, he's just the agent for someone else's vehicle. Obviously, the best thing would be to fly down and go over it, but I can't right now due to the workload.

The owner is firm at $35,900 so there is no "making an offer on it."

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Old January 29th, 2008, 08:55 AM
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crap.

if this truck were to go up for sale 6-8 months from now, i'd be all over it.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 11:09 AM
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Here is a free evaluation of Mike and ECR.

Of course, if you're naive enough to pay me for it, I won't reject your money. My time is not free, I had to turn on my computer, grab some coffee, log in, open a browser, type www.d-90.com in said browser, click forum, find post and to top it all off, I had to read through Mike's laundry list of issues.

Business name: ECR
Location: wherever
License number: shouldn't have one

OVERVIEW
Mike's duty in the business is long overdue of an overhaul. His employees apparently do top-notch work, but that's this business' only saving grace.

DETAILS
Customer service skills extremely rusted and long overdue for refurbishment.
100% unrealistic expectations, no one suggested "suck d**k for free, Mike"
Poor use of the English language "Man your good Ron" should be "Man YOU'RE good Ron",
whores out info other people have already paid for. If it wasn't easily available, why would you want $50 with net zero gain?

I'd better stop, there's someone more important on the other line.

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Old January 29th, 2008, 12:25 PM
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Ok I think we've had enough of this..

Mike is evil for wanting $50 to go find the hard copy evals and retype them all up
Martian is evil for offering to help a friend sell his truck.

Everyone shut the f* up and someone buy the truck or I'll make Aaron shut the site down again.
(thats a joke for those without humor)
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Old January 29th, 2008, 09:33 PM
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Mike from ECR is VERY generous with his time and expertise both on this board and over the phone and on email. I challenge you to find a more accomplished rover restorer. Get off his case lest he not play in this sandbox any more......
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Old January 29th, 2008, 10:08 PM
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I've spent a pretty penny or two on my rover, but the most valuable thing I can buy is advice from the likes of mike and pendy, (if or when they do charge for it). When he's doing us favors on this site, he's not working on customer trucks. $50 for that level of detail is chumpchange.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 04:21 AM
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If Jim and Pendy dont get it, theres no hope left.
You sound like JS Briggs accusing me of dual personalities.

Naughty or nice?

We all can get through this one I hope.

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Everyone shut the f--k up and someone buy the truck or I'll make Aaron shut the site down again.
Such language, could be a time out in your future young man!
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Old January 30th, 2008, 05:56 AM
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Dare I try to redirect to the original thread?? Bottom line, buy all the truck you can going in. The illusion of getting a deal on a 15 year old 110, of which only 500 were imported is crazy. This case is more typical than not, the buyer just has a huge advantage of Mike's knowledge and estimate going in. $50 to 60k for a nice truck w/ no issues and consistant maintenance is the real bargain. Been here too many times. And with such a great exchange rate for parts these days, and Mike's empty shop looking for buisiness, he'll probably do this resto for free, just to practice- if he had only gotten his $50.....
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Old January 30th, 2008, 09:37 AM
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Such language, could be a time out in your future young man!
You're right.. I have edited my potty language post.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 12:16 PM
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Dare I try to redirect to the original thread?? Bottom line, buy all the truck you can going in. The illusion of getting a deal on a 15 year old 110, of which only 500 were imported is crazy. This case is more typical than not, the buyer just has a huge advantage of Mike's knowledge and estimate going in. $50 to 60k for a nice truck w/ no issues and consistant maintenance is the real bargain. Been here too many times. And with such a great exchange rate for parts these days, and Mike's empty shop looking for buisiness, he'll probably do this resto for free, just to practice- if he had only gotten his $50.....

He should have asked for 175.00! That would buy a few beans at lunch. Hope he can brush this off.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 02:50 AM
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Poor use of the English language "Man your good Ron" should be "Man YOU'RE good Ron"
Actually, there should be a colon after the word "language", a comma after the words "man" and "good", and a period after the name "Ron".

couldn't resist... lol
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Old February 9th, 2008, 05:00 AM
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I get that the owner is inflexible on the price, but what does anyone think this truck is actually worth?
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Old February 10th, 2008, 01:11 AM
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Being that the whole friggin' truck needs to be de-rusted from top to bottom, in addition to the neglected mechanical's, it's worth about $25K.
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Old February 10th, 2008, 11:40 AM
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It didn't seem that bad from the laundry list, did it?.. top up/change fluids, seal up the "small leak" PS system..
its got a new alternator, distrib, CPU and battery.. most of the issues seemed small, asthetic things.. I guess if you want a 100% factory restore there is a bit of work to do, but for a fun machine wekeend type of thing it seems pretty nice. rust, yeah not as bad as some. definitely don't hve to de rust the thing from top to bottom to enjoy the truck!!

knocking engine, good chance that a simple fix would solve that (for now)..

seal the AC system anbd charge it, change the one bad fan and you'd probably get cold air..

$35k seems like a decent price to me!

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Old February 10th, 2008, 12:07 PM
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It doesnt seem too bad all things considered. A defect list prepared by ECR is always going to be detailed, and since it was forming the basis for a restoration estimate, it has to be all-inclusive. Point is that not everything on it has to be done immediately to have a decent driver. I think its fair.
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Old February 10th, 2008, 05:06 PM
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rust, yeah not as bad as some. definitely don't hve to de rust the thing from top to bottom to enjoy the truck!!
Well, to you guys in the North, a vehicle w/o rust issues means that one can't stick his feet through the floor boards. It's a cancer that needs to be dealt with sooner than later.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 11:43 AM
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I get that the owner is inflexible on the price, but what does anyone think this truck is actually worth?
After spending over two months looking at all the 93 NAS 110 Defs available, and taking into consideration my own personal view of where the contracting economy is heading in the next three months, AND what the top end NAS's are selling for/have sold for, all I would offer on this LR would be $30k. Regarding Revtor's comment, I don't remember reading about an engine knock anywhere, though.

There's an easy, cconservative $15k in restoring this vehicle correctly, with doing some of the work myself. This would be paint job I'd want to have perfect since that is part of the original NAS/500 design mystique.

I saw a really nice, white Def 110 csw on a semi-car hauler On Mill Road in Byrum, NY on Friday evening around 5:30pm, heading downtown Port Chester, NY. It was on the top level so I didn't get a good look at it as it went by and I couldn't turn around because of the traffic. I just happened to look up because the black cargo frame stood out against that unmistakable white. It was not an NAS because it didn't have the roll cage. None the less, it was quite a shock... I almost ran into the guy in front of me.

Does any one here on D90 claim it?
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Old February 11th, 2008, 12:11 PM
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d110 sighting

You probably saw the 110 that was listed on the site back in mid-january
http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=14201
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After spending over two months looking at all the 93 NAS 110 Defs available, and taking into consideration my own personal view of where the contracting economy is heading in the next three months, AND what the top end NAS's are selling for/have sold for, all I would offer on this LR would be $30k. Regarding Revtor's comment, I don't remember reading about an engine knock anywhere, though.

There's an easy, cconservative $15k in restoring this vehicle correctly, with doing some of the work myself. This would be paint job I'd want to have perfect since that is part of the original NAS/500 design mystique.

I saw a really nice, white Def 110 csw on a semi-car hauler On Mill Road in Byrum, NY on Friday evening around 5:30pm, heading downtown Port Chester, NY. It was on the top level so I didn't get a good look at it as it went by and I couldn't turn around because of the traffic. I just happened to look up because the black cargo frame stood out against that unmistakable white. It was not an NAS because it didn't have the roll cage. None the less, it was quite a shock... I almost ran into the guy in front of me.

Does any one here on D90 claim it?
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