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Old January 10th, 2014, 06:29 PM
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Looking for an affordable NAS D90

Hi,

I realize that 'affordable NAS' is like saying 'military intelligence' or 'jumbo shrimp' but basically im interested in doing a ground up restoration over the next year on a 94 or 95 ST NAS for a beach/surfing truck. I dont mind salvage titles, moderate rust or non-runners(i plan on doing a diesel). Im looking for something in the sub 10k range. There has got to be some aborted projects or blown motor defenders out there somewhere.

Thanks in advance,

Chris
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Old January 10th, 2014, 06:33 PM
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Attainable without a cage. Good luck in your search - it is a noble one! Since you're looking salvage, you may also want to open your search to non-NAS STs, since it will be far easier to find what you're looking for in that price range.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 06:40 PM
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I have a feeling that in the future, a salvage title on a NAS 90 won't mean anything.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 06:41 PM
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Possible with salvage and wrecked, but still quite low. Basically unheard of for non-salvage and in once piece where the prices for high miles rust buckets start around 12-15k (although these are very few on the ground).
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Old January 10th, 2014, 06:46 PM
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Non-NAS and not an ST, but easy to remedy...


http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/4267666094.html
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Old January 10th, 2014, 06:49 PM
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If you want to convert it to a Diesel then just go for a import and skip the NAS.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 06:49 PM
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I get 15-20 emails a week from people who want a

" project defender but it must be lhd and rust free or as close to rust free as possible, how much will you charge me for one."

Its amazing how few people bother to even read the website and glean that I am not a dealer. Further its amazing to me that each thinks his quest/desires are different from everyone elses.

Rant over. Best of luck original poster. It would seem that totaled insurance auction trucks are bringing 10k.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 06:52 PM
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If you want to convert it to a Diesel then just go for a import and skip the NAS.
I had the idea of swapping to a 300tdi until I learned the conversion is about $20-25k. Do it yourself and you'll save a little
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Old January 10th, 2014, 07:25 PM
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I had the idea of swapping to a 300tdi until I learned the conversion is about $20-25k. Do it yourself and you'll save a little
Huh...is that for a new truck along with the engine?
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Old January 10th, 2014, 07:37 PM
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Not that I know a lot but here is what I've learned (especially a lot over the last year importing a 110 thru Doug@DividingCreek):


- Under $10,000 just won't happen. Unless you have been in this game for a while and know when, where and what to buy.
- I can't say for fact but I think the NAS market will only be going up. Not sure if it is just the time of year but Copley for example seems to have a much smaller amount of NAS trucks as usually. I think more and more of the NAS are going to be either low mile cream puffs or recent rebuild/refurbs both of which will be worth bucks.
- If you go the import route, it's a tricky path. I feel like I was lucky for the price I paid and what I got but I wasn't expecting much knowing I was going to do a rebuild. Even with $15k and up trucks, you don't know what you are truly getting.
- A ground-up restoration is a long process even with these simple vehicles. When I first started I was thinking I'd be done for under $30k and done Spring 2014. I've past $30k in spending, already many hours and I am thinking I'll be lucky if I get it done done before Fall 2014.


For under $10k, I'd grab that RRC "buggy" for $7,500. I think that would make a rad beach/surf rig with some work.
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Huh...is that for a new truck along with the engine?
No, just to swap from the 4.0L petrol to a 300 tdi diesel. This was if my landrover mechanic did it. He said it was due to the wiring, etc. a lot of it was labor expenses too.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 07:41 PM
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sheesh....what's a 200 TDI swap cost?!?!?
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Old January 10th, 2014, 08:21 PM
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No, just to swap from the 4.0L petrol to a 300 tdi diesel. This was if my landrover mechanic did it. He said it was due to the wiring, etc. a lot of it was labor expenses too.
he said it was due to the wiring as he probably has no f'in clue what he's talking about.

Defenders are supposed to have a diesel not a stupid electronic gizmo powered v8.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 08:42 PM
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$20-25k for a 300tdi installation is a complete rip off, even if you did everything correct with all new AC parts.
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Old January 11th, 2014, 10:37 AM
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No, just to swap from the 4.0L petrol to a 300 tdi diesel. This was if my landrover mechanic did it. He said it was due to the wiring, etc. a lot of it was labor expenses too.
I was being sarcastic...who ever told you that is a moron. The wiring for a 300tdi swap is simple and easy. 12k will get you a swap with a complete rebuild on the engine and all new ancillaries...
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Old January 11th, 2014, 12:05 PM
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Non-NAS and not an ST, but easy to remedy...


http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/4267666094.html
This is a D90board member's truck.
A few threads here about it.
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Old January 11th, 2014, 12:16 PM
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Old January 11th, 2014, 12:35 PM
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I was being sarcastic...who ever told you that is a moron. The wiring for a 300tdi swap is simple and easy. 12k will get you a swap with a complete rebuild on the engine and all new ancillaries...
No shit?! I guess that just shows my limited knowledge. Haven't been in this game that long.
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Old January 11th, 2014, 02:33 PM
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Well, I bet Matt Browne would say 20K is a reasonable estimate for a professional conversion.
Let's ask him!
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