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Old September 20th, 2016, 12:59 PM
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Is this a bad idea?

What do you guys think, bad idea? I'm tempted to hookup the trailer and go get it...

Could be a can of worms though..

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Old September 20th, 2016, 01:02 PM
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sounds like bad idea unless you want parts
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Old September 20th, 2016, 01:21 PM
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Old September 20th, 2016, 01:50 PM
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Worth maybe about half that if you want to add it all up as PARTS and add a little for it being ASSEMBLED (which...is what it is).
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Old September 20th, 2016, 03:18 PM
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Depends on what your goals/needs/wants are.

But my gut reaction says no. Certainly not at that price, especially when you can buy a titled runner & bring it over for not that much more...
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Old September 20th, 2016, 03:35 PM
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Id buy it and put a Series 3 VIN on it.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 04:05 PM
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Id buy it and put a Series 3 VIN on it.
Just what I was thinking
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Old September 20th, 2016, 04:44 PM
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Id buy it and put a Series 3 VIN on it.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 05:00 PM
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Hmm, feels sort of illegal. Even though I'm sure hot rod guys do this type of thing all the time.

Looks like I'll have to hold out for a legit truck out here/near in Oregon
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Old September 20th, 2016, 05:30 PM
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Most people's annual tax returns are also "sort of" illegal. Or the speed I do on the highway. Or the funny smelling green plants in the jar in the drawer. Who cares.

------ Follow up post added September 20th, 2016 06:32 PM ------

Also. I'm sure you would be able to do some forensics and find out what the original VIN was. Order a replacement tag for it. If it ever comes up in court, let the guy with the 2015 110 with the 1984 VIN do the explaining.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 05:37 PM
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Most people's annual tax returns are also "sort of" illegal. Or the speed I do on the highway. Or the funny smelling green plants in the jar in the drawer. Who cares.

------ Follow up post added September 20th, 2016 06:32 PM ------

Also. I'm sure you would be able to do some forensics and find out what the original VIN was. Order a replacement tag for it. If it ever comes up in court, let the guy with the 2015 110 with the 1984 VIN do the explaining.
Could check the windows for the vehicle registration number, this was not an un-common thing in England, and you could backtrack from there to get the vin.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 05:42 PM
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You guys are tempting me to hook up the trailer and go to the bank
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Old September 20th, 2016, 05:48 PM
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Someone that is dumb enough to execute a VIN swap this blatantly is probably also dumb enough to leave it stamped on the chassis.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 06:15 PM
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Its right behind the front passenger wheel on the outside of the frame rail right? Anywhere else to look? Vins are by state so I'm sure they sent it far far away...
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Old September 20th, 2016, 06:25 PM
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Its right behind the front passenger wheel on the outside of the frame rail right? Anywhere else to look? Vins are by state so I'm sure they sent it far far away...
Its at the front of the UK Driver side frame rail, facing outward, atleast on the defender/predefenders I have seen. Never hurts to look

If I am remembering the article correctly, this truck is not only a 1983, but an early 83 at that, there are a couple of tell tale signs.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 06:44 PM
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How difficult would it be to get a new frame with a title and swap things over, perhaps do some updates while I'm at it?

------ Follow up post added September 20th, 2016 04:52 PM ------

How difficult would it be to get a new frame with a title and swap things over, perhaps do some updates while I'm at it?
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Old September 20th, 2016, 09:00 PM
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Why not take your budget, go on vaca to the UK and buy the one you want. Prices are tons cheaper and the selection is huge. The dollar is strong now as well. You can import any vehicle 1991 or older. Fill it with spares for half what you'd pay here. Don't get stuck with VAT since everything you buy is for export.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 09:51 PM
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If you're into yard art maybe?
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Old September 20th, 2016, 09:55 PM
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It's a can of worms.

If I had the money, it would be the type of thing I'd offer $4k for (not because it is really worth that little, but because it can't be titled or insured) and just have fun with it (leave it in a hangar at Sunriver!) not worrying about titling it unless I could figure out a way to reconstruct/kit title/orwhateverotherkindoftitle there might be out there.

But no way would I go near that for my one and only Defender or something I might want to drive on a regular basis.
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Old September 21st, 2016, 01:27 AM
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Jon:

It will really help us if you explain clearly what you want.

Why do you want a Defender?
What do you want a Defender to do?
What's your budget?
Petrol or Diesel?
RHD or LHD?
How much of a budget will you have available per year/month?
Are you good at mechanic work?
Do you have a garage?
Have you owned/driven other Land Rover models?

This type of stuff.

The Portland All-British Field Meet would have been a great place to get answers. Sadly you just missed it. Next year!

Cheers,

Paul.
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