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Old February 20th, 2014, 01:09 PM
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FS (maybe): 2004 Disco SE 76k- Perfect sans blown block :(

Hello All,


Am sending a feeler out for my 2004 Disco SE, 76k on the odo, all maintenance records, Giverny green on cream/ blue piping leather. Perfect shape (no rust, even) EXCEPT blew a hole in the block behind the #7 cylinder about two weeks ago and the cause is still under investigation. Truck ran like a champ until that fateful day and the failure still has the mechanics stumped (hence the two weeks in the shop.) Has been sitting ever since as I decide what to do.


I am torn right now because the truck is in immaculate shape except for the block, but it's going to cost me 11k to do a 2/300TDI and r380 tranny swap with labor (my dream since I bought the truck) and not much than half that if I throw another 4.6 V8 in there. BUT- the truck is in the best shape I've seen any of the DIIs I've ever seen in person. No lights, three amigos, DSC, ticking, literally nothing.


I'm open to $ or trade offers and/ or thoughts: Should I part out, sell as is with blown block? People's thoughts/ interest would be greatly appreciated. I can upload pictures if anyone is even interested.


Located in the DC/Metro area.


Thanks in advance!
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Old February 20th, 2014, 06:40 PM
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If you plan on selling it I would fix it first... Otherwise you won't get much. Don't part out.
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Old February 20th, 2014, 06:52 PM
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It's worth $500-$2000 as it sits. Call up marty/will/paul/etc and get an engine for a couple grand or less shipped.
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Old February 20th, 2014, 08:17 PM
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It's worth $500-$2000 as it sits. Call up marty/will/paul/etc and get an engine for a couple grand or less shipped.
That's what it's worth as-is, if its fixed and as nice as you say it's worth 8-11k I would say...
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Old February 20th, 2014, 08:42 PM
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Can you store it whilst you come up with the $11k?

Sounds like a perfect candidate for a Tdi conversion!
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Old February 20th, 2014, 10:41 PM
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Can you store it whilst you come up with the $11k?
Sounds like a perfect candidate for a Tdi conversion!
TDi swap in a D2 is nowhere near as simple as a D1/RRC. Throw a 4.6 with pinned sleeves in it
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Old February 20th, 2014, 10:46 PM
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Thanks everyone. Yes I can store, and have found 4.6 engines for a couple g's to just get it up to normal snuff. My understanding is that with the exception of the moving of motor mounts, swapping the ancillary parts and lack of the gimmicky ascent control (have to choose either A/C or, not both) the 2/300 TDI and r380 pairing actually work quite well with the Disco IIs and get rid of a lot of the problem areas the 4.6 experienced. Would just be a significant investment to give myself something I would want to hold onto until...forever. Though getting back to this thread- the tdi would also make it more marketable I would imagine, but not enough to recoup costs.

------ Follow up post added February 20th, 2014 10:47 PM ------

Thanks Howski. Yeah my understanding is the TD5 is obviously the "proper" swap for that model year but much more expensive.
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Old February 20th, 2014, 11:18 PM
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Yeah my understanding is the TD5 is obviously the "proper" swap for that model year but much more expensive.
A TD5 Disco would be awesome. I have never seen or heard of anyone doing a TD5 swap to a D2 in the US. That could be one of the rarest configuration of Land Rover in America.
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Old February 20th, 2014, 11:26 PM
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A TD5 Disco would be awesome. I have never seen or heard of anyone doing a TD5 swap to a D2 in the US. That could be one of the rarest configuration of Land Rover in America.
There is an Epsom Green Td5 DII floating around the U.S. somewhere...nice truck.
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Old February 21st, 2014, 12:01 AM
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Td5 has been done a few times. You really need an exceptional amount of parts from a donor vehicle, and you will likely still run into problems.

Diesel swap depends on the state, I can't do it here with our emissions testings.

You may be able to get 11k for it with a new engine, but that is pretty high.
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Old February 21st, 2014, 12:09 AM
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I would buy a td5 disco ii for 14k all day long if it was properly sorted. Having had a 300tdi D1 and a td5 110, I can't imagine the amount of work it would take to properly sort a td5 into an NAS disco ii.

It would be an amazing truck though.

Could this be a candidate for nick's LS swap?
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Old February 21st, 2014, 02:42 AM
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Just saw a Td5 D2 in Italy last night. That would be a nice ride.
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Old February 21st, 2014, 06:58 AM
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Old February 21st, 2014, 09:00 AM
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I am definitely seeing TD5 engine sets (w/ accompanying parts) on Ebay UK for less than 5g, but who knows if those are properly sorted, NAS, etc. I will start sorting through the for sale threads here and elsewhere to check availability of 2/300 or TD5. I have one source that can get me a TD5 kit on special order for 6200, which is only 1200 more than the 2/300 runs. My question would be whether the "correct" TD5 fit for an '04 Disco is worth the extra headaches of the ECU issues the TD5s have been known to have, or whether just running with the simplicity but added stress of installation and tuning of a 2/300 is the way to go...

Thanks again for everyone's input.
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Old February 21st, 2014, 09:29 AM
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It's worth $500-$2000 as it sits. Call up marty/will/paul/etc and get an engine for a couple grand or less shipped.
I agree with this-probably on the high side as yours is lower mileage.

I, too, had a giverny green SE7 04 with a bad motor.
I replaced the '04 4.6 with a '97 gems 4.6 and welded in the ckps and redid the hgs, cam, wp, etc.
It was a pretty truck; only year of that color and matches the giverny RR of the same year.
I got the long block from Randy Williams, heads and gaskets and stuff from Will Tillery.
Drove it for 2 years and tried to trade it towards a D3 or D90 but sold instead.

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Old February 22nd, 2014, 09:23 PM
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Thanks everyone! Just got the call- 4.6 is being replaced with an 80k donor and 6,000 mile warranty. My only out of pocket is 600$ for the warranty deductible (much better than the possible worst case.) I should have the Disco back within a week or so.

I also got response from someone in the UK who would crate me over a donor TD5 with all ancillaries out of a Disco II shipped for ~1700 which isn't bad for sub 100k mileage, from what I read. Anyone have any ideas on the NAS "ness" of these TD5s out of the box with UK specs? I have searched but am having trouble. Can't quite shake the TD5 possibility bug...

Thanks!
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Old February 24th, 2014, 07:34 AM
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I live in Monkton but we have not crossed paths. Would love to see your project in case you decide to sell
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I live in Monkton but we have not crossed paths. Would love to see your project in case you decide to sell
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Which one of you two is right off York road by Seventh District Elementary? I've almost run off the road a couple of times in the past seeing the 'rovers' in the driveway.. LOL!
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Old February 24th, 2014, 09:01 AM
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I too have seen that driveway of Coniston green beauties... But I am located closer to York and Monkton roads. I have some more locally-directed questions I may PM you both in on. Once I have "George" back next week perhaps the three of us can meet up for a coffee.
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Old February 25th, 2014, 07:38 PM
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I am game, let's pick a time soon
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