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Old April 20th, 2012, 03:51 AM
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Fire and Ice Edition based on a 1985 LHD Defender 90

Just finished our latest creation build on a very sound LHD 1985 frame, build to 2009 Fire and Ice Limited Edition in White with Santorini Black roof, hood and fenders.


Defender Fire and Ice :

In 2007 we saw the introduction of Anniversary and Puma editions and now we have two cosmetic upgrades called ‘Fire’ and Ice.’

Whatever the case, the Fire and Ice limited edition vehicles consist of your basic Defender 90 and 110 station wagons with eye catching paintwork and trim, and a range of optional accessories.

Defender Ice contrasts the cooler shade of ‘Alaska’ white with black grill, hood and roof panels.

The exteriors are finished off with ‘diamond turned’ five spoke alloy wheels, black side runners, LED rear lamps with clear lenses, and a modernised front light treatment.

Inside, the cabins feature superior materials and special treatments to complement the exteriors. Seats combine black leather borders with grey Alcantara centre panels and head restraints with embossed Land Rover logos.

We have build the 1985 to look like the Ice Edition using the original ICE wheels with new General Grabbers, ICE type grill, ICE crystal clear head and taillights. Interior from brand new 2011 Defender in half leather with forward facing jump seats, TD5 dash installed retrimmed in alcantara leather. Brand new original headlining.

We have fitted a 200 tdi engine, fully serviced, new cambelt, tensioner, pulley, new radiator, new exhaust, new KN airfilter, new intercooler pipes and hoses. Powersteering fitted as well.

Chassis cleaned, surface rust removed and treated with POR15, build up with new steering joints, new brake hoses, new rear shocks, new front brake rotors , pads and new calipers.

Front doorpanels will be trimmed in alcantara leather as well.

Price is 35900 delivered to PA, clear US title, duties paid
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Old April 29th, 2012, 04:59 PM
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There seems to be little or no interest in this beauty here then .... will try and list it on EBAY next week then...
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Old April 30th, 2012, 04:56 PM
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Looks like a Panda bear! My wife would love it
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Old April 30th, 2012, 07:23 PM
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Looks like a Panda bear! My wife would love it
Something like this
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Old April 30th, 2012, 11:19 PM
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Something like this
Chics dig it. It's the shaggin wagon.

Nice looking defender, sure to get someone some shaggin!
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Old April 30th, 2012, 11:53 PM
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I have been posting this in a few places because a buyer who gets slapped with a 6 figure fine while the seller sits pretty in the UK or wherever with $40k seems a bit wrong. This is just food for thought (for the record I do not feel conflicted at all even though I am selling a D110):

Mr. John Harland
HarLand Rover Restorations
6-8 Mary St.
Stockton-on-Tees
Cleveland TS18 4AN
England

Fax 011-44-1642-649-688

Dear Mr. Harland:

We are responding to your request for an interpretation, addressed to Taylor Vinson of this Office, which we received on September 2, 1999.

We understand that the U.S. Customs Service will not allow entry into the United States of four Land Rover motor vehicles pursuant to the declaration that "the vehicle is 25 or more years old." You assert that these Land Rovers are restorations of vehicles that are more than 25 years old, and should be allowed entry under this declaration without the need to comply with the Federal motor vehicle safety standards. We note that such an entry is permitted by 49 U.S.C. Chapter 301, specifically by sec. 30112(b)(9).

Although you describe your modifications as "restorations," the question that we must decide is whether you are, in fact, restoring a motor vehicle that is 25 or more years old, or whether your operations go beyond restoration and must be regarded as assembling or manufacturing a motor vehicle; if the latter, then the vehicles can be imported only if they comply with Federal motor vehicle safety standards that apply to them on the date of their assembly or manufacture.

There is no definition of "restoration" in Chapter 301. This word is defined by the Random House Compact Unabridged Dictionary (Special Second Edition, 1996) as "3. A return of something to a former, original, normal, or unimpaired condition." We believe that this is a generally accepted use of the word, especially as it pertains to the restoration of motor vehicles.

You have listed the items retained from the original vehicle, noting that "some were repaired, some were modified to accept accessories, all were stripped and refinished to as new condition." Original items retained are: "rear bodies, rear side panels with windows, all floors, side T-frames, bulkhead assembly, side rear doors (modified to accept modern door locks), front, top and side fenders, seat frames and cushions (retrimmed), seatbase with all bracketing, rear door (complete), all sill panels, transmission tunnel assembly" and "numerous smaller components; wiper motor assembly, fuel tanks and filler assemblies, heater assembly, steering rods, bumpers, headlight assemblies, hinges, brackets for body mount, crossmembers, various interior and exterior bracketry." You also retain "original VIN plates."

Other items of equipment are used, and come from Land Rovers whose ages are not specified as being over 25 years old. These are: "frames, axle casings, engine core units (on three vehicles), bonnets (on three), fender flares, radiator front panels (on three), steering boxes (to switch to safer LHD)."

Finally, there are the equipment items that are new and have not been used before: "signal light assemblies, stereo and speakers, batteries, electric window kits, air-conditioning kits (NAS kits approved for use in the US), mudflaps, side runners, winches (on two), bull bars (on two), skid plates, wheels and tires, springs and shock absorber kits, driving lights (on three), seatbelt shoulder harnesses, engine rebuilding parts, axle and steering rebuilding parts, wiring harness for interior, carpeting and soundproofing kits."

After reviewing these facts, we have concluded that your operations do not result in a return of these motor vehicles "to a former, original, normal, or unimpaired condition" within the meaning of the definition of "restoration." There are significant differences between the vehicles that come to you and those that leave you. The original vehicles were equipped with RHD (right hand drive) which you have converted to LHD (left hand drive). You appear to have added air-conditioning intended specifically for use in the United States, electric windows, and stereos and speakers, none of which were original equipment on the Land Rovers. For these reasons, we cannot accept your assertion that you are merely restoring Land Rovers that are 25 or more years old.

Instead, we have concluded that you are a "manufacturer" within the meaning of 49 U.S.C. Chapter 301. In pertinent part, a "manufacturer" is a person "manufacturing or assembling motor vehicles" (49 U.S.C. 30102(a)(5)(A)). The extent of disassembly of the original vehicle, the substitution of equipment not used in the original vehicle such as the engine and frame, and reassembly with certain items of new equipment is "manufacturing or assembling" within the meaning of the definition of "manufacturer." It follows from this that we regard the date of manufacture of your Land Rovers as the date that you complete the operations you have described in your letter. In short, though the original Land Rover may have been manufactured in 1974 or earlier, the vehicles refused entry into the United States are considered to have been manufactured in 1999.

This conclusion also means that these (and future) Land Rovers cannot be entered into the United States unless and until they conform and are certified as conforming to current Federal motor vehicle safety standards that apply to multipurpose passenger vehicles. You cite an agency interpretation stating that a vehicle that is produced from a chassis which has already been sold to the public is not considered a new vehicle and is not subject to Federal safety standards and certification requirements. This interpretation does not apply to your fact situation, and we do not need to decide whether the Land Rovers you manufacture in 1999 employing a used chassis are or are not "used" vehicles. Under Chapter 301, no motor vehicle less than 25 years old, whether new or used, can be imported into the United States unless it conforms, and is certified as conforming, to the Federal safety standards that were in effect at the time it was manufactured (49 U.S.C. 30112(a)).

As the United States is a market of interest to you, the agency's Office of Vehicle Safety Compliance will be pleased to provide you with guidance on the requirements of Chapter 301 and other Federal regulations that apply. You may write its Director, Ms. Marilynne Jacobs, for assistance.

Sincerely,
Frank Seales, Jr.
Chief Counsel
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d.9/29/99
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Old May 1st, 2012, 03:06 AM
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Wow, interesting story , very informative !!

Not sure if this will apply for this truck. It is build on a proper 1985 frame, with original 1985 body, rear body, 1987 roof and doors with all original glass used except a new front screen. Left the factory as a LHD diesel so that matches as well.

Good luck with your D110 in Bonatti Gray, can we see some photos of that one ?
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Old May 1st, 2012, 12:24 PM
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Michael,

I'm not sure if that letter would apply to your truck either. It's just one lawyer's interpretation of the law in dealing with a guy, or company, that clearly did a lot more than would reasonably qualify under the current "25 year rule".

Its a certainly a pretty truck and I'd give a kidney, not my own, for those seats!

I will have more than just Bonatti Grey door jambs on friday hopefully!
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Old May 4th, 2012, 11:37 PM
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Clearly that 110 is on a later chassis. Or maybe a later crossmember on an early chassis. Oh, wait, I forgot, nobody gives a rat's hindquarters. Bump for a nicely done truck, good luck with the sale Mike.

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Old May 5th, 2012, 03:21 PM
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I have a local customer who came to drive it yesterday and was impressed. Seems to be a bit too fancy for the guys out there... building another more std version in cream with black top, 2.5 NA diesel, black alloy wheels, std vinyl interior at a much lower price range as well.
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