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Old April 1st, 2016, 05:04 PM
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1995 Range Rover LWB

Well, Some things just don’t work out as you plan….

For sale is my 1995 Range Rover Classic LWB that I have owned less than one year (I got it August 2015) and driven about 2k miles…. The restoration work was done at Land Rover Thousand Oaks in California and it is in excellent condition. My understanding from their service manager is that it was done over the course of three years and was used in their showroom for the launch of the new LWB.

I am asking $24k OBO.

Lots of photos can be seen here and in my registry: 1995 Range Rover LWB by smithjoshu | Photobucket

The cosmetic restoration work included a full body-off respray (no lines), all new leather on the front and back seats, new headliner, steering wheel from a 30k mile truck (I bought from buckhorn), new carpet floor mats, refinished center console wood, new BFG All Terrains (245/75r16), Powder Coated wheels with solid painted lug nuts, Center Console mounted cup holders, and tons of other little details. It looks amazing and is corrosion free. I have the tool roll, original manual, working key fob and key.

Mechanically –The truck has just over 180k miles and per Thousand Oaks the top end of the motor was rebuilt from a new factory cam shaft up at the dealership before I got it. New AC lines were fabricated/installed and the AC and heat work great. When I got it, I changed the engine oil, diff oil, new ATF in the transfer case (Borg Warner) and drained/refilled the transmission. The top end of the motor had just been done, so it has fresh antifreeze/plugs/wires. I put a new rotoflex/centering bushing in the rear driveshaft and rebuilt/balanced the front driveshaft with new universals. I installed new Terrafirma 30mm Hub-Centric wheel spacers on all four wheels as the fronts would rub slightly at full lock. I just did this last week and they are not on the truck in the photos – I need to get photos of the truck with them installed. The air suspension has been swapped out for coils with Bilstein shocks and rides nice.

Electronics – Everything works (including cruise control) with the exception of the heated seats and the rear lift gate does not lock with the key fob like the rest of the truck and has to be locked with the key. I have never tried the rear defroster, but the AC fogged up the windshield last week and I did try the front defrost (elements in the windscreen) and they work well.
Negatives – There are very few, but I will list what I have noticed. There is a small tear in the vinyl in the right rear exterior fascia (1/4”). The climate control module is not solidly mounted – doesn’t move normally, but if you push it, it will move back and forth. Rear liftgate does not lock with the key fob – locks with key itself – I guess it needs a new actuator. Couple cracks in front speaker covers and door cubby. Vinyl on center console is pulled tight below the cupholder – I have a new decal for the transfer case operation and was going to have an interior guy reattach with adhesive and then cover any hole with the decal.

If you are interested please let me know if you have questions or want me to post a picture of anything.

Now for the explanation in case you are wondering why I would sell this so quickly… When I found out my wife was expecting our second daughter (born last September), I decided to bite the bullet and pay for a ’95 LWB that was corrosion free and restored/turnkey. I wanted to have a land rover with airbags and enough space to allow me to have a car seat/kid behind me and still be able to drive without my knees hitting the dash. The plan was for my wife to use this as her daily driver. Well….as nice as it is, she is used to her heated steering wheel, touchscreen navigation, backup camera, 7 seats, etc. etc. and prefers her pathfinder. Anytime I want to take the LWB, it becomes a project of moving strollers, diaper bags, car seats, etc …. I have an ’04 Disco that is built just the way I want it and is maintained by the company. I am in land development and am often running through fields of saplings and muddy subdivisions under construction – Not anywhere I would want to take the LWB. It just isn’t getting used.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 10:05 AM
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Price Drop: $20,000

I think we are going to buy the wife the new Armada when it comes out later this summer.... I need sell this. Few new pictures attached with the wheel spacers installed. I haven't posted this elsewhere yet, but need to get it out there.... Let me know if you are interested, or want to see photos of anything in particular.

Thanks.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 10:31 AM
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Have you had a chance to put some miles on the engine to get a feel for how much oil its burning and how steady the coolant is staying? I saw a Cornish Crème LWB yesterday during lunch. LWB's is where its at.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 11:02 AM
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you might try a http://bringatrailer.com/ auction but honestly I think you are $5-10,000 too high given the mileage and non stock tires/wheels. I sold my 1995 swb, in near perfect condition with 118,000 miles for $16,666 last Fall on that site and was overjoyed at what I got.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 11:11 AM
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I just looked back to check the mileage when I bought it - I have put 2,500 miles on it and have not noticed any oil or coolant consumption. I will be home for lunch and can take a picture of the oil level - I changed the oil when I got the truck and haven't added since that I can remember.

If you are interested, let me know. I am going to be in Stuarts Draft with my family this Friday evening/Saturday morning and we could probably take the LWB and meet up....
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Picture of the oil level today - 2,500 miles since changed.

Bring a Trailer may not be a bad idea - It is certainly something that will need a special buyer that is looking for a LWB..... from what I've seen the '95 LWB's are worth more now than the SWB's. I looked for a few years and didn't see one in this nice of condition for less.
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Picture of the oil level today - 2,500 miles since changed.

Bring a Trailer may not be a bad idea - It is certainly something that will need a special buyer that is looking for a LWB..... from what I've seen the '95 LWB's are worth more now than the SWB's. I looked for a few years and didn't see one in this nice of condition for less.
are they? I thought they made fewer SWBs in 95 so they were more rare and worth more.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 02:26 PM
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I agree John.. I was in the market for a long time and recently purchased one. Similar conditioned SWBs were harder to find and more expensive.

This is a nice truck, GLWS.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 08:36 PM
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LWB's are better.
From what I read somewhere(maybe James Taylor?) all the LWB's were pulled out of the regular line and made in the custom shop.
They were given more attention to detail.



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LWB's are better. From what I read somewhere(maybe James Taylor?) all the LWB's were pulled out of the regular line and made in the custom shop. They were given more attention to detail. .
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LWB's are more practical, sure. But for a '95 the SWB is a significantly rarer beast (for whatever that's worth). I definitely think pricing on the high end of these things is still in flux, however, judging by what recent examples have sold for I really don't think Josh's price is all that out of the ballpark, honestly. It's just a matter of how quickly he wants to unload it.

------ Follow up post added April 26th, 2016 08:53 PM ------

AND I just went through the pictures again. The thing is gorgeous.
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LWB's are more practical, sure. But for a '95 the SWB is a significantly rarer beast (for whatever that's worth). I definitely think pricing on the high end of these things is still in flux, however, judging by what recent examples have sold for I really don't think Josh's price is all that out of the ballpark, honestly. It's just a matter of how quickly he wants to unload it. ------ Follow up post added April 26th, 2016 08:53 PM ------ AND I just went through the pictures again. The thing is gorgeous.
OP said the paint was a body off job. Was all glass and door removed as well?
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Old April 27th, 2016, 09:06 AM
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Glass was not removed - doors/hood/gas cover were.

I guess the LWB always seemed more expensive because that was what I was looking for for so long.... When you want an LWB, you see a bunch of SWB's.... To me (everyone has their opinion...) the interior of the SWB is no different than a Discovery and therefore there are thousands like it - I would prefer a D2 and therefore the RRC SWB was less valuable. The only way for me to get a Land Rover with somewhat modern safety (airbags) and that kind of kid room for less than 6 figures was the '95 LWB.
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Bump for the guy looking for LWB
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I'm looking for one but too far out of my price range...BaT might take it but my guess is they'll want to do it with No Reserve. My guess is it'd bring about $12-15k at auction. The mileage will scare some off even with the refurb...it'd be wayyy different if it were a 95k mile refurb. Stupid that a meaningless number like 100k creates so much angst in some but it does.


Good luck whatever you decide...good looking truck.
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I'm looking for one but too far out of my price range...BaT might take it but my guess is they'll want to do it with No Reserve. My guess is it'd bring about $12-15k at auction. The mileage will scare some off even with the refurb...it'd be wayyy different if it were a 95k mile refurb. Stupid that a meaningless number like 100k creates so much angst in some but it does.


Good luck whatever you decide...good looking truck.
Not really sure why you posted that. Sounds like tire kicking to me.
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