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Old May 9th, 2016, 01:45 PM
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1995 NAS ST @ local Dealer

This was just traded in to Audi of Arlington (VA). 120K, rear seat, no AC. Doors and floor boards need attention Very soon if it's not already too late, has the usual hardware rust, dent behind passenger door. Borla tail pipe. The seat adjuster for the driver seat is missing, old, torn badger seat covers front and rear. Has the plastic hardtop and no other tops. Wasn't able to drive it as it has no inspection, they didn't have the keys available to start it. Asking $49K. I have no connection to the truck or dealership. Happy to take more pictures and can (and will) test drive once it's through inspection.
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Old May 9th, 2016, 01:50 PM
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Crazy... looks to be in rough shape cosmetically for $50K.

------ Follow up post added May 9th, 2016 10:52 AM ------

I met a guy this weekend driving my same truck (Red 94 ST) and he had just bought it from a dealership in the SF Bay Area.

It has ~65K on the clock and only a minor electrical issue. Perfect condition aesthetically.

If the truck you post is listed for $50K I wonder what he paid!?!?
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Old May 9th, 2016, 01:54 PM
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Curious to what kind of a trade in value was given.
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Apparently it was traded in on a Q5. They also pointed out there there were "maybe only 10 of them left in the country" As for the asking price: it's good to have goals.
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Old May 9th, 2016, 03:35 PM
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At that price it comes with 24 hour helicopter support. and a pair of trunk monkeys.
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Old May 9th, 2016, 03:43 PM
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Apparently it was traded in on a Q5. They also pointed out there there were "maybe only 10 of them left in the country" As for the asking price: it's good to have goals.
Only 10!?! Lol

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Old May 9th, 2016, 03:46 PM
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Apparently it was traded in on a Q5. They also pointed out there there were "maybe only 10 of them left in the country" As for the asking price: it's good to have goals.
God I love armchair experts. There are probably 10 of them in Arlington alone right now.
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Old May 9th, 2016, 03:47 PM
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Looks like a nice $20-25k truck.
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Old May 9th, 2016, 03:52 PM
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Some poor soul is going to get ripped off.
That's nowhere near a 50k truck.
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Old May 9th, 2016, 04:03 PM
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Apparently it was traded in on a Q5. They also pointed out there there were "maybe only 10 of them left in the country" As for the asking price: it's good to have goals.
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God I love armchair experts. There are probably 10 of them in Arlington alone right now.
Certainly just misspoke. He meant "10 left in the county."

Unless you think a car salesman didn't know what he was talking about and was just saying whatever he thought would sell the truck.
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Old May 9th, 2016, 04:09 PM
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be curious how much they actually gave him towards the trade... whats a new Q5 cost?
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be curious how much they actually gave him towards the trade... whats a new Q5 cost?
Google says $40-50k
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Old May 9th, 2016, 04:36 PM
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Google says $40-50k
there you go... hopefully it was close to an even trade.... it seems like just yesterday that was a $15k truck.
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Old May 9th, 2016, 05:11 PM
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... hopefully it was close to an even trade.....
"even trade"? Very doubtful....I am guessing the dealer took every opportunity to knock the price down on the trade...and from the pictures there was a lot to knock down. Plus he is "asking" $50K. Let's see what he actually gets.
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Old May 9th, 2016, 07:00 PM
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NAS prices continue to go up. Frankly, they are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them. Wouldn't you rather have a NAS truck than a 1984 110 that's been "restored" for $100k?

Tldr:
In another life, before being married and having kids, I owned a somewhat rare BMW sports car. Since they were few and far between, and registered just like NAS defenders, the owners pretty much had access to each other via forums, just like this one. They formed a group which worked together to indirectly set the resale price by basically not offering any of them up for sale below what they considered an good value. I owned my car for three years and sold it for 4 grand more than I bought it. Three years later it's "worth" another 10. Google "coupe cartel". It's simple supply and demand. If NAS owners wanted to, they could pull of the same scheme. The again, NAS owners aren't dbags

Those of us on here are comparing these truck values to what we may have paid for the condition truck we own at the time we made a purchase. I've learned first hand that specialty vehicle prices don't follow a normal model.

ROW trucks are selling for the high teens. A NAS truck in this condition is worth 10k more just because. The funny part is, someone is going to buy it for probably a few grand below list price. That person isn't a current forum member.

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NAS prices continue to go up. Frankly, they are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them. Wouldn't you rather have a NAS truck than a 1984 110 that's been "restored" for $100k? Tldr: In another life, before being married and having kids, I owned a somewhat rare BMW sports car. Since they were few and far between, and registered just like NAS defenders, the owners pretty much had access to each other via forums, just like this one. They formed a group which worked together to indirectly set the resale price by basically not offering any of them up for sale below what they considered an good value. I owned my car for three years and sold it for 4 grand more than I bought it. Three years later it's "worth" another 10. Google "coupe cartel". It's simple supply and demand. If NAS owners wanted to, they could pull of the same scheme. The again, NAS owners aren't dbags Those of us on here are comparing these truck values to what we may have paid for the condition truck we own at the time we made a purchase. I've learned first hand that specialty vehicle prices don't follow a normal model. ROW trucks are selling for the high teens. A NAS truck in this condition is worth 10k more just because. The funny part is, someone is going to buy it for probably a few grand below list price. That person isn't a current forum member.

Case in point: http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...0-a-70499.html
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Old May 9th, 2016, 08:22 PM
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NAS prices continue to go up. Frankly, they are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them. Wouldn't you rather have a NAS truck than a 1984 110 that's been "restored" for $100k? Tldr: In another life, before being married and having kids, I owned a somewhat rare BMW sports car. Since they were few and far between, and registered just like NAS defenders, the owners pretty much had access to each other via forums, just like this one. They formed a group which worked together to indirectly set the resale price by basically not offering any of them up for sale below what they considered an good value. I owned my car for three years and sold it for 4 grand more than I bought it. Three years later it's "worth" another 10. Google "coupe cartel". It's simple supply and demand. If NAS owners wanted to, they could pull of the same scheme. The again, NAS owners aren't dbags Those of us on here are comparing these truck values to what we may have paid for the condition truck we own at the time we made a purchase. I've learned first hand that specialty vehicle prices don't follow a normal model. ROW trucks are selling for the high teens. A NAS truck in this condition is worth 10k more just because. The funny part is, someone is going to buy it for probably a few grand below list price. That person isn't a current forum member. ------ Follow up post added May 9th, 2016 04:07 PM ------ Case in point: http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...0-a-70499.html

Case 2:
http://honolulu.craigslist.org/mau/cto/5536699587.html

Supply and demand on an island with 160k people.
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Bani -

Interesting story about the BMW "cartel." I heard a similar thing about Jerry Seinfeld over the weekend... story goes: he paid $500k+ for a very rough 911 Speedster. Someone started to give him sh*t about paying so much and how clueless he must be. Of course, he already owns 4, 5, or 6 of them. Says that he can't drive them because they're too expensive... he stresses out too much that they'll get damaged.

Then someone's light-bulb went off: he single-handedly upped the value of every one of them by forcing the cheapest one on the market to be "worth" $500k.

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God I love armchair experts. There are probably 10 of them in Arlington alone right now.

Lol. That is what I was thinking.


And as for the salesman. Yeah people are buying Defenders in the USA only to export them to a country where the prices are probably 75% less.


Would this be an example where people should call the dealer only to have fun with them? And it would be really nice to know what they bought it for. It is quite possible that the new owner of that Q5 is really laughing. Probably traded them straight up for it.
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Lol. That is what I was thinking.


And as for the salesman. Yeah people are buying Defenders in the USA only to export them to a country where the prices are probably 75% less.


Would this be an example where people should call the dealer only to have fun with them? And it would be really nice to know what they bought it for. It is quite possible that the new owner of that Q5 is really laughing. Probably traded them straight up for it.
Wouldn't have been an even swap, dealer won't do that, certainly not in this case at least where resale ask is close to the Audi. I agree though, the PO of the defender is laughing. Probably got $20-25k for it and looks like she's rotted pretty good. Probably blown head gaskets too. Way better than trying to sell on the market where you'd have to put up with a thousand questions and have to listen to the new owner bitch about it.
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Case 2: http://honolulu.craigslist.org/mau/cto/5536699587.html Supply and demand on an island with 160k people.
True! Yet, THAT is a gorgeous truck and worth every penny in my book! ;-)
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