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Old May 5th, 2015, 09:53 PM
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1971 Defender IIa. Not sure what it's worth.

Hey all.

My grandfather recently passed away and left me with his 1971 land rover defender. I have no idea what it is worth and am interested in selling it in the near future. I just wasn't sure how much interest there would be because of its age. I am also not sure if it runs. It is currently being held by a local car yard, and I have not had a chance to see it. I had someone from the yard send me these pictures. Any idea what it's worth or if there would be any interest?
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Old May 5th, 2015, 09:57 PM
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That is a Land Rover Series, not a Defender.

For a better guess on value, the condition of the frame, bulkhead out riggers and rear crossmember will need to be detailed in the pictures. Those are all common rot areas and can cost $$$$$ to repair.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 10:07 PM
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If the frame condition matches the bulkhead condition, $1,500-2000 probably
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Old May 5th, 2015, 10:14 PM
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Hi There, I may be able to shed some light on your grandfathers truck.

What you have there is a LR Series IIA (late) The term "defender" did get coined until the 80s when they added bigger engines and moved the grill (AKA breakfast forward to close to flush with the wings. "Series trucks" where pretty much:
1950s series I
Early 1960s Series II
Late 1960s Series IIA
Early 1970s Series IIA (Late)
Mid 1970s Series III

To many, that truck is very desirable, however.... Its got a very rusty bulkhead, which is generally the tip of the ice berg with rust on theses trucks. I look at a couple dozen series a year, mostly in Central America, and walk away from 95% due to rust. I'd buy a truck peppered by hail and with pink carpeting over rusty bulk head.

In sort, from what I can see in picture, your grandfathers truck is a very big project or a parts vehicle. Do you how/if the engine runs and miles on it? Engine could be worth $1K alone if in good running order. Otherwise you would be luck to get $2.5K for it. Also check/ask over on Gunsandrovers.com Its a forum specific to these trucks.

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Old May 5th, 2015, 10:27 PM
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Old May 6th, 2015, 08:46 AM
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1971 series land rover

Jason, I am a series land rover enthusiast. Your truck is an original import 1971 series 2a model 88. It looks to be pretty much unmolested/unaltered other then repaint and a few minor additions like light guards.
The value in these trucks is all over the place. Nice original trucks that run/drive/ are road registered and look presentable can bring well into the $10-15k range. Restored trucks can bring more.
How to value a non running/not on the road truck that is a project is based on what it will need to be fixed. Condition of the frame (chassis) and bulkhead (firewall/dash) determine most of its value. A new frame is around $3K. A restored bulkhead is $1500-$2000. A non running project that needs a frame, major bulkhead repair can be found for as little as a few hundred $ to $2-3K.
The photos show some rust in the bulkhead, but are not enough detail to give me an idea on the extent of the rust.
This may sound nuts but get under the truck and look closely at the frame, take a screw driver and scrape all around the frame looking for loose scale rust/holes. Passenger side especially as the main chassis rails tend to rot first on that side due to how the wiring to the rear of the truck was run. go over the whole frame and bulkhead. If the frame has holes in the main rails and the bulkhead footwells as well as where the front doors bolt on are rotten (not surfce rust but crumbling rot- then the truck is ripe for a restoration. Not just simple repairs to get it running. Mnay frame parts are replacable, but if the main rails are rotten then the chassis is no good.
Obviously its been sitting quite a while (rust streaks) so all the hydraulics will need rebuilding, the gas tank will have to be cleaned, derusted, treated and installed,the oil pan removed, cleaned of sludge and reinstalled. Clean the carburettor and fuel pump...Then tune up and get it running.
Send me some photos of the frame, bulkhead, etc. my mobil phone is 607-376-6009. Please feel free to give me a call. - John Dorr
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Old May 6th, 2015, 09:26 AM
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What part of the philly area is the truck located in?

I might be interested. Of course as other have said the deep down condition is very important.
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Why is it in that yard?
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Old May 6th, 2015, 07:23 PM
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All,

Thank you very much for the help. My grandfather had quite a few cars, and could not keep them all at his house-hence the storage yard. I will call the owner of the yard and have him take pictures of the undercarriage and bulkhead. My only question is, where/what is the bulkhead? I will also ask him if it runs or has run recently. I am still at college for the next few weeks, but by the time I'm home the truck should be back at my parent's house.

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It's easily worth 25-35 thousand after you put 25-35 thousand into it.
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All,

Thank you very much for the help. My grandfather had quite a few cars, and could not keep them all at his house-hence the storage yard. I will call the owner of the yard and have him take pictures of the undercarriage and bulkhead. My only question is, where/what is the bulkhead? I will also ask him if it runs or has run recently. I am still at college for the next few weeks, but by the time I'm home the truck should be back at my parent's house.

-Jason
Bulkhead = Firewall/Windshield Cowl
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The bulkhead is the vertical firewall between the engine/front wheels and the passenger cabin, this includes the footwells. It is constructed of steel unlike most of the body panels which are an aluminum alloy. Because of this they rust out, just like the frame. In your photos you can see the rot along the sides where the door hinges attach.
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It's easily worth 25 thousand after you put 35 thousand into it.


There fixed it for you. :-)
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I'd be happy to go check it out. PM me ?
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