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Old June 24th, 2012, 06:57 PM
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Newbie Intro. Bought a 94 D90 NAS #772 Arles Blue

This is my first post. I'm a complete newbie here. I've been lurking here for a while but just signed up this week. I admit I need to learn a LOT about Landies in general and my D90 specifically.

My Bucket List: A Land Rover was on it. That itch just got scratched. After months of driving Series IIA's and III's I moved on. Gave up. It just wasn't going to work. Too slow, too expensive.... Blah Blah. Then a friend imported a RHD D90 with the 3.5L and it got the juices going again. After some eBay searches, D-90.COM looking, CL looking, etc... I found a decent one right in the town I live in. Found it on eBay and then just went to the local (Subaru) dealer and made the deal. There was at least one Rover owner there who came out and gave me some really useful background info and advice. If someone really needs to know I can PM the price but I am satisfied after watching the stuff here for the last few months. And it was in my own town.

What I got:

1994 NAS D90 ST with 71.5K original miles. #772. Arles Blue color which I think was only available in 1994. It was bought brand new on April 20, 1995 in Pittsburgh, PA and moved to Colorado in December 1995 and registered here. Two other owners since then and all of them in Colorado based on the Carfax. No rear seats, no A/C, and no hard top. Just the way I wanted mine. Brand new tires (Hankook, but not BFG AT's) and some service records over the years. Has a newish ARB front bumper and a X9 Super Winch which I am not familiar with. Has an aftermarket (I think, not sure) center console made of metal with a nice pad on top that I can't recall the name of. It may be OEM. Everything works. Drives straights. Stops well. Will go 75-80 MPH at least here at 7000' elevation.

The only defect is the top which is a full Bestop. It has a rip near the rear window and is frayed in a few spots. It should last a year or so but will research getting a newer top. Need more research to determine what's best. It also came with a Bikini top, winch remote, recovery equipment, etc.. Has the original owner's manual and a factory service manual. Has Old Man Emu shocks, springs and steering damper. After having it inspected by a local independent Rover specialist (Pikes Peak Rovers) I was informed I have a 2" lift. The bad news is that someone has removed both the front and rear anti-sway bars and I am trying to work with the selling dealer to resolve that. Since this will be a 50%+ pavement, 30% offroad, and 20% serious offroad, I'd rather have the anti-sway bars.

I absolutely love it. I've owned 5 Jeep Wranglers (I own one 2006 TJ Rubicon Unlimited now) and this is just a bigger, badder, meaner, slower, probably thirstier and less reliable Jeep for me. My wife loves it as well. The sliding front windows are very cool. It's not fast, it's not slow. It will be a lot more fun to drive it around town and on back roads. It doesn't want to be driven really fast and that's the way I want it.

Only changes right now are:

1. Ordered the parts from Rover's North so I can lock the rear door. Rob from Rover's North could not have been more helpful and suggested I get 3 lock barrels so all 3 doors can open with the same key. Ordered.

2. Ordered a set of Hella Lights (full kit) as well from Rover's North. Will bolt these to the ARB bumper and wire the kits into the vehicle carefully.

3. Going to have Pikes Peak Rovers do a full service (all fluids to include coolant flush, brake flush and bleed, spark plugs, air filter, engine oil & filter, both diffs, trans and xfer case fluids). All three belts. Spark plug wires and dist cap and rotor. Replace the gas tank skid plate as mine is pretty rusty (only real rusty piece), and he will source some used anti-sway bars and hardware for me as well. That's in progress now and I enjoyed working with Chris. I had intended to do a Pre-Purchase inspection but there was at least one other person seriously interested in the 90 so it ended up being a Post-Purchase inspection. Oh well. I took a chance but was told by Chris the car looks solid and just needs some small things over time to get it up to snuff.

4. I may get at least one side step for my wife. She's 5'8" but already ripped a pair of shorts on the door jam exiting the vehicle. I am not sure if OEM side steps are still available or not. I don't want running boards, just a step for the right, and maybe one for the left if they fold out of the way.

5. I was pointed to Badger for a soft top but after seeing the prices I need to think it over. I'd love to have some gutters and such so I can use the car more in the winters here in Colorado.

Just fetched it home this week. I'm officially a masochist. 3 If there are any members local to Colorado Springs I'd be glad to offer a beer in my garage in exchange for some information and input on a few things.

If anyone knows this vehicle personally then please contact me. Here's a copy of the Carfax showing it's been in Colorado all but 8 months of it's life.

http://vervaeke.smugmug.com/Cars/199...r-fax-3-X3.jpg


Pics from the dealer's site when I bought it. I'll add my own to this thread as I work on the vehicle.
























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Old June 24th, 2012, 07:05 PM
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Welcome aboard. An Arles Blue St is a great choice. Do you yourself a favor and change the oil cooler lines asap. Can't stress that enough.
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Old June 24th, 2012, 08:05 PM
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Old June 24th, 2012, 08:06 PM
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Arles blue is the best NAS color
I almost thought about buying it lol!

If it hasn't been done yet, replace the oil cooler lines with some stainless braided ones.
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Old June 24th, 2012, 08:20 PM
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Very nice rig. I'm sure someone will chime in with some info on your truck. Seems to be quite a few members out in your neck of the woods.
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Old June 24th, 2012, 11:38 PM
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Congrats! Arles blue is awesome!
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Old June 24th, 2012, 11:44 PM
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The x9 is a super winch(!). Keep it!
Console probably has a Tuffy.
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Old June 24th, 2012, 11:55 PM
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Center volatile is a tuffy.

Get some new seat foams. Yours look spent. You would be shocked how much nicer the ride will feel.
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Old June 25th, 2012, 12:05 AM
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Good looking truck. Enjoy it!
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Old June 25th, 2012, 12:42 AM
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Welcome aboard. An Arles Blue St is a great choice. Do you yourself a favor and change the oil cooler lines asap. Can't stress that enough.
Bob:

I am aware. It was mentioned during my post-purchase inspection. Once I get the really basic stuff squared away it will be on my list. He mentioned that a local bearing supply house (Whisler Bearing) can fab the braided (I think he said braided) lines. If not, where is the best place to get them? I saw some posts about ECR's but it looks like they only sell to people who install there.

Perhaps I need to do more searches on the subject to determine what is the best off-the-shelf but not OEM parts. Any input? This looks likes a not too difficult job.

Thanks,

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Old June 25th, 2012, 01:38 AM
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4. I may get at least one side step for my wife. She's 5'8" but already ripped a pair of shorts on the door jam exiting the vehicle. I am not sure if OEM side steps are still available or not. I don't want running boards, just a step for the right, and maybe one for the left if they fold out of the way.

Sh*t torn a few holes and I am 6.2 so just have to be a little careful



5. I was pointed to Badger for a soft top but after seeing the prices I need to think it over. I'd love to have some gutters and such so I can use the car more in the winters here in Colorado.

I had a brand new RN top and it just didn't fit as well as I would have expected. I would either get a new or used badger and call up Chris - who know what he has lying around willing to get rid of.


Definitely go with Barry suggestion on the bottom cushion. You can order the bottoms complete and get new top skin. There are easy to do. If you really want to impress the wife buy some seat heating elements. I got mine from Cobra Seat heaters if I recall. Keeps the buns toasty.

Do some research on sway bars. There are pros and cons to them and the trucks still handle well without them. With a lifted truck that goes off road you start to think about limitation of articulation with swaybars.
Welcome aboard!

------ Follow up post added June 25th, 2012 01:44 AM ------

Clean truck. Since you are not running a rear seat the Badger half cab is a nice set up. Also I would get a set of rock sliders - if not for offroading it is strickly the piece of mine that heaven forbid you get T-boned you have some protection between you, your love ones and the idiot who ran a stop sign.
When I first picked up #58 I went through and replaced all the bushings and tie rod ends, drop arm etc. Made a world of difference. You don't have to go with Poly, just descent rubber if you want. The 94 rear sways have a very small bushing holder. I am not sure if the 95 and 97s do as well but the 94s are a little harder to find those bushing mounts
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Nice looking truck. As said earlier put the oil lines at the top of the list. I waited a few months on mine and took a look under the hood one day and they were wet with oil; parked it until they showed up. Easy DIY job.
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Old June 25th, 2012, 06:38 AM
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Once I get the really basic stuff squared away it will be on my list. where is the best place to get them? I saw some posts about ECR's but it looks like they only sell to people who install there.
It is THE MOST BASIC thing that should be first squared away.

Trailhead 4x4 has the lines.
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Go badger.
RN top is poorly made and just doesn't look good.
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It is THE MOST BASIC thing that should be first squared away.

Trailhead 4x4 has the lines.
Funny considering how you took your time with them.
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x2x2x2x2 oil lines should be #1 thing to do. You can take them out and remove the sandwich plate btwn the filter and filter mount and drive without them with no problem. At least have your mech do this until you can get some. If one of these lets go, 50% chance you can say good by to your new toy...

These lines have taken out more defenders than anything else. Maybe. ..

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Funny considering how you took your time with them.
The truck came with oil cooler lines that had been redone prior to me purchasing it (even found a receipt for when they were done) but in the end I wanted the braided steel kind for full peace of mind instead of the new-ish rubber ones that came on the truck, and so I upgraded to them just a few months after purchasing.
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Old June 25th, 2012, 10:48 AM
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Oil Lines

Okay, I got the message.... . My local shop (Pikes Peak Rovers) also mentioned it but did not say it was the highest priority. I just went out to the garage and took a few photos of my rig. It sure looks like I've got the OEM lines. They may have been replaced at some point as they sure look pretty new for an 18 year old Rover with 71K on it. I don't see any leaks or any signs of impending doom but I got the message.

Options:

#1. I called the local fabrication place which builds them and they said I need to remove my lines and bring them in. Then it's a week or so if they're not busy. Hmm. Pass for now.

#2. One other person suggested Trailhead 4x4 and their web site shows a ready-made kit for around $225 as I have the threaded radiator fittings. At least I am pretty sure I do. My pics show that. So unless I get some different input or recommendations for a different supplier I'm ready to make a call and order some lines and get then on their way.

#3. Alternatives? Is there a better set of lines out there that I need to know about?

Tom

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It's not only about the age of the lines but also how they were laid out. I forgot to add that the oil cooler lines that came with my truck, although they were rubber, had also been redirected away from the exhaust manifold, whereas yours still run right up along them.

------ Follow up post added June 25th, 2012 10:58 AM ------

Also, your smugmug folder is "1994 Range Rover Defender 90" - so you definitely bought a rare truck!
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The truck came with oil cooler lines that had been redone prior to me purchasing it (even found a receipt for when they were done) but in the end I wanted the braided steel kind for full peace of mind instead of the new-ish rubber ones that came on the truck, and so I upgraded to them just a few months after purchasing.
I've heard about new rubber ones failing right away which after having the same new genuine steering line fail three times in a row I believe. No matter I just felt like giving you shit.

Go trailhead. Eric is great and easy to deal with. I have his first generation lines before they went blue and red. They work great. I also sleeved mine with heat shield to make them even safer.
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