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Old July 16th, 2014, 10:41 AM
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I read a thread here a few weeks back and can't find it now that I need it. My Transfer Case is leaking from the rear output shaft. For sanity sake I want to order all the parts at the same time to stop the leaking. Can anybody point me to the thread or list up the part numbers I need to order?
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Old July 16th, 2014, 10:49 AM
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I read a thread here a few weeks back and can't find it now that I need it. My Transfer Case is leaking from the rear output shaft. For sanity sake I want to order all the parts at the same time to stop the leaking. Can anybody point me to the thread or list up the part numbers I need to order?
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Dave:

Is it leaking through or by the rear brake drum? Or is it leaking high up in between the case (where it's called the 'intermediate shaft' I believe and actually leaks from where the case & internal shaft meet)?

First one is easy and I can give you the part #'s needed and walk you through it...second one not so much.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 10:57 AM
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I haven't looked how high it it coming from but the bottom of the e brake drum has gear oil dripping from it. It will be a few days till I can get eyes on it to see for sure where it is leaking from.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 11:00 AM
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I haven't looked how high it it coming from but the bottom of the e brake drum has gear oil dripping from it. It will be a few days till I can get eyes on it to see for sure where it is leaking from.
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Tough to tell, post some pics...but it's not coming THROUGH the drum, correct? May be the usual intermediate shaft rounding out the case. I have a pic of it somewhere I believe.

Alternatively, my 90 was having a POOL of 90W under it after I first got it - and that was actually the FRC7043 transfer case output oil seal (which you take off the ebrake drum, replace the seal, FRC2464 felt washer, and NY120041L nyloc nut). However, honestly based on my experience this was it the more "rare" of the two....whereas all the intermediate shafts leak (and is difficult to fix unless you take the tcase out and have a machine shop redo where it rounds out the case). Most just live with it and keep the tcase topped.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 11:03 AM
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Mine's leaking from the intermediate, its on the Round to it list.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 11:08 AM
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If it's the top seal it's time to swap out the t case for something with a better gear ratio. I'll get some pictures posted next week when I get some free time.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 11:14 AM
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Found a pic of the output shaft leaking through the drum (below - this is the easy fix with the aforementioned parts & a can of Brakleen)...still searching for the intermediate shaft leak pic.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 11:23 AM
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Mine was doing the same thing...easy fix.

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If you end up pulling it, I'd recommend replacing the three seals on the transfer box, the felt washers, and resealing everything you can take apart with Right Stuff. You should also replace the seal on the transmission side. If its an automatic I would also replace the input shaft itself since it gets grooves worn in it causing leaks even with a new seal.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 11:35 AM
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Even the shaft that comes through the upper section of the case is easy enough to do but I believe does require the transfer case out.. You simply ondo the nut and push the shaft through a little bit and replace the oring on the shaft itself and then put it back through and tighten the large nut.. Job done... We were shying away from it until we realized how easy it was to do.. Now they all get and external reveal including that oring..
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Old July 16th, 2014, 11:38 AM
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Thanks for all the help guys!
It's tied to an LT77 not an auto box.
I don't recall it leaking from the center of the e brake so it may be leaking from the top.
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I have some out of a car so if you need pics of how it's done just let me know... Is it leaking from the rear of the box or the front...

------ Follow up post added July 16th, 2014 12:14 PM ------

Also check the reverse light switch... I've had them leaking before and it took us a bit to find that one...)
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Why not spray it off real good with brake cleaner and then drive it for a couple days! Then snap a picture of right where it's leaking from and then post the photo and someone on here will tell you exactly what seal(s) you need to replace. The brake e-drum seams be a catch-all from anything that is leaking in front of it...so don't jump the gun and start replacing things that might not be needed unless you just like to waste time and $$$.
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It's not leaking from where Jason's picture shows. I'll spray it clean, fill it and see if I can find the true source. Thanks all for your input..
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It's not leaking from where Jason's picture shows. I'll spray it clean, fill it and see if I can find the true source. Thanks all for your input..
Likely the intermediate shaft then...which is up high. It's the one I couldn't find a phot of, but once you get some pics post them up and we'll ID the leak.
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If the seal leaks it comes through a hole in the back of the drum casing assuming the hole is clear. A leak from the drum center as per that picture means a loose nut and leaking from the nut washer. All quick and easy to change the shaft seal and nut sealing washer. Maybe a half hour job.
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Must be that excessive lift on your Schwinn that caused it to leak.
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I cleaned it up and it is coming from the drum so I ordered the required parts (lets hope).
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I cleaned it up and it is coming from the drum so I ordered the required parts (lets hope).
You mean like the pic I had originally posted? Why don't you put up some pics anyhow just to get a 2nd set of eyes on it.
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Bad lighting but here is what I have got. It is leaking from where the drum attaches to the xfer case.

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