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Old December 17th, 2015, 04:56 PM
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X-eng Deflex clearance 110

I'm hobbling together a Deflex kit that was... Shall we say, less than usable.

Among other things I replaced 1 ball joint and some bushings but I noticed on axle drop the 'knuckle' hits the spring perch. No matter what I adjust I can't get it to not hit.
I was supplied with a cut up mounting block (frame side) so I have no clue what it is supposed to look like.... Anyone have a picture of a pre td5 110 one?

I'm running HD ome springs that are a little wider but not much more than LD HD.

Any input would be great. I leave for a trip in a week and the way it is now it would certainly get eaten by Baja.



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Old December 17th, 2015, 05:29 PM
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I'm hobbling together a Deflex kit that was... Shall we say, less than usable.

Among other things I replaced 1 ball joint and some bushings but I noticed on axle drop the 'knuckle' hits the spring perch. No matter what I adjust I can't get it to not hit.
I was supplied with a cut up mounting block (frame side) so I have no clue what it is supposed to look like.... Anyone have a picture of a pre td5 110 one?

I'm running HD ome springs that are a little wider but not much more than LD HD.

Any input would be great. I leave for a trip in a week and the way it is now it would certainly get eaten by Baja.



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Simple fix is to throw the crap away for you can also bend the 2 rear arms equally.
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Old December 17th, 2015, 05:37 PM
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Old December 17th, 2015, 06:16 PM
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Have you had any troubles with it bending further because of the bend?
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Old December 17th, 2015, 09:15 PM
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Never seen one on a 110, but on a 90, the right side arm should be shorter than what you have pictured.

Basically, the right side arm should swing up behind and under the right rear spring perch.

Your right side arm just looks too long to me, but like I said, I have no idea what the 110 one should look like.
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Old December 17th, 2015, 10:03 PM
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Aren't 110 rear springs a larger diameter than 90 springs? Couldn't that be a contributing factor to the interference?
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Old December 17th, 2015, 11:01 PM
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I've got that setup on my 110 and am about to pull it off and put it on my 130.... I'll get some pics of the setup on my 110 in the morning and post em up..from memory it was a pain to setup, but can't recall why...and yes, 110 springs are bigger than 90.
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Old December 17th, 2015, 11:07 PM
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I'm running HD ome springs that are a little wider but not much more than LD HD
All springs are the same outside diameter. It does not matter the brand. 7" od for 110/130 rears.

Go and search on AULRO forums. There are a ton of discussions there.
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Old December 17th, 2015, 11:21 PM
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Simple fix is to throw the crap away for you can also bend the 2 rear arms equally.
To me, it almost seems like an offset spacer where the sway bar attaches to the frame brackets may help....moving the bar further away from your axle, and pulling the arms further away from your spring perches.


Not sure if bending the arms or offsetting will help my situation... The tops of my arms are hitting my frame and the sway bar shifts a few inches in either direction. I believe hitting the frame has caused the left piece of the sway bar to bend inward slightly, as seen in the pic. I am running TF HD springs and have a RTT. Was hoping this would drastically reduce the body roll, but having some doubts in either the TF shocks and springs, the X-Deflex set up, or my ability to put it together, because it almost seems like things are getting worse on the highway.
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Old December 17th, 2015, 11:54 PM
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All springs are the same outside diameter. It does not matter the brand. 7" od for 110/130 rears.

Go and search on AULRO forums. There are a ton of discussions there.
Heavy duty coils have a 20mm spring coil..standard duty have 18mm spring coil..
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Old December 18th, 2015, 10:53 AM
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Heavy duty coils have a 20mm spring coil..standard duty have 18mm spring coil..
I dont have them to measure right now but the heaviest OME rear springs sit slightly off the perch and are slightly wider them LR HD.

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Not sure if bending the arms or offsetting will help my situation... The tops of my arms are hitting my frame and the sway bar shifts a few inches in either direction. I believe hitting the frame has caused the left piece of the sway bar to bend inward slightly, as seen in the pic. I am running TF HD springs and have a RTT. Was hoping this would drastically reduce the body roll, but having some doubts in either the TF shocks and springs, the X-Deflex set up, or my ability to put it together, because it almost seems like things are getting worse on the highway.
Interesting, and concerning... Perhaps a polybush cut as a space on either end to limit the sideways movement of the bar?
I may do that just in case.

I'm going to bend the bar per Stephens advise and will report back.
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Old December 18th, 2015, 10:57 AM
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I put this system on my 110 for exactly the same reasons, and it worked great to reduce the body roll..adding dual shocks on the rear helped also as it tended to slow down the inertia effect of it tipping... From memory there is a very specific way of adjusting the distance of the 2arms apart from each other...do you have the installation instructions for the system.?.
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Just email the guy who invented it and let him know your issues:

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Old December 18th, 2015, 12:45 PM
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Thanks. Looking at that thread, their links look to contact the perch also.... strange.

A gusset on the curved bar is certainly needed.
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I've got a good inch clearance on each one....
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