Wrong Wheel Offset. Spacers good idea. - Page 2 - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #21  
Old July 14th, 2014, 12:27 AM
ArmyRover's Avatar
ArmyRover
Status: Offline
Bill Ski
83 110 "Frankenstein"
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 1,617
Samer,

I had no issues, I was pushing 6k rpm in 2nd off road slinging mud and basketball sized chunks of turf. Bouncing in and out of rutts and catching solid patches of traction. I was more worried about snapping a CV or axle than the spacer.





------ Follow up post added July 13th, 2014 11:28 PM ------

I went with these spacers and many others have as well with no issues that I have heard of.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wheel-Adapte...8f5462&vxp=mtr
__________________
"If you can't stand behind our Soldiers, than by all means feel free to stand in front of them"

Unknown Author


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
716-898-8153
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #22  
Old July 14th, 2014, 12:39 AM
Viton's Avatar
Viton
Status: Offline
Deaf Ember
Smart 4x4
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: La
Posts: 1,231
Quote:
Originally Posted by javelinadave View Post
Backwards Dennis. You screw them out further so the allow less deflection..... Less extension.
I understand Dave, so I guess I'm changing the initial question to inquire about tightening them in to gain a tighter turning radius, is this harmful ?
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old July 14th, 2014, 12:39 AM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
Thanks for the link. Just one last question please. Will these work on drum brakes? My truck has drums in the back.
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #24  
Old July 14th, 2014, 12:50 AM
javelinadave
Status: Offline
-
-
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: -
Posts: 5,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
I understand Dave, so I guess I'm changing the initial question to inquire about tightening them in to gain a tighter turning radius, is this harmful ?
That I don't know.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old July 14th, 2014, 01:17 AM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by samer0214 View Post
Thanks for the link. Just one last question please. Will these work on drum brakes? My truck has drums in the back.

Never mind guys. I found the answer in another post. The spacers should work on drum brakes with no issues.
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old July 14th, 2014, 07:38 AM
Rocky's Avatar
Rocky
Status: Offline
Chris
72 + D1 drivetrain
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Colonies Aka Boston
Posts: 8,771
At the risk of complicating matters, you can change the drums to disks.
__________________
A friend of mine runs a land rover / range rover specialty repair shop. Based on his experience, they are capable of stopping anywhere, anytime, at any cost.

I don't know about the brakes, only their unreliability.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old July 14th, 2014, 08:39 AM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
I'm actually contemplating the idea.do you know what is required to do that besides calipers and disks of course?
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old July 14th, 2014, 08:40 AM
ArmyRover's Avatar
ArmyRover
Status: Offline
Bill Ski
83 110 "Frankenstein"
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 1,617
They work fine on drums my rears are drum also
__________________
"If you can't stand behind our Soldiers, than by all means feel free to stand in front of them"

Unknown Author


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
716-898-8153
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old July 14th, 2014, 08:52 AM
Uncle Douglas's Avatar
Uncle Douglas
Status: Offline
Doug Crowther
A defender in every driveway-motto
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gods Country- Central Virginia
Posts: 11,833
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by samer0214 View Post
I'm actually contemplating the idea.do you know what is required to do that besides calipers and disks of course?
rather than getting into all that there are a couple threads on here about it. Mark Kelgren did a write up and so did Frank Rafka.
__________________
Good judgement comes from experience,experience comes from bad judgement.

Dividing Creek Imports
Worldwide Vehicle Shipment and Importation Service
Restoration & Modification work


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

410.693.1391


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old July 14th, 2014, 09:03 AM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
Searching the threads as I type. Thanks.
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old July 17th, 2014, 09:35 PM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
Bill: I ordered the spacers you linked me to, and installed them earlier today. They definitely took care of the rubbing issue, but I have a major concern with them. The lug nuts that came with them do not scream in all the way on the hubs, because the hub studs are too short. Once all in and tightened, I can still see 4-5 threads on the nuts. Is this what yours are like?

Machining the back of the spacers down about an eighth of an inch would help a little bit, but would still keep some threads exposed. Thoughts?
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old July 17th, 2014, 09:57 PM
Daddymow's Avatar
Daddymow
Status: Offline
Raub A.
1987 D110 Tithonus
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Stuart, FL / Boone, NC
Posts: 3,970
Registry
Mine do that with Wolf rims, came like that from the MoD.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old July 17th, 2014, 11:14 PM
defender1844
Status: Offline
Amit Likhyani
95 D90 Soft Top Estoril Blue 6.2 LS
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 574
Sam, I had the same observation with those spacers as I also had a rubbing issue with 285 tires. If others have had no issues with the spacers I'm sure they are fine but I was creeped out and went with a non OEM wheel that had the offset built in.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old July 17th, 2014, 11:29 PM
ArmyRover's Avatar
ArmyRover
Status: Offline
Bill Ski
83 110 "Frankenstein"
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Augusta, GA
Posts: 1,617
Mine did not have that issue i would contact the vendor.
__________________
"If you can't stand behind our Soldiers, than by all means feel free to stand in front of them"

Unknown Author


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
716-898-8153
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old July 18th, 2014, 12:19 AM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
Will do.
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old July 18th, 2014, 08:20 PM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
The vendor was no help at all. They kept insisting that I need to change the studs in the hubs. I asked to return the spacers and am waiting to see what they have to say.

Can anyone recommend other "better" spacers they've tried and know to have worked?
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old July 23rd, 2014, 04:52 PM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
After further research and reading I think I've found the issue with my hubs. Apparently (as I'm sure many of you know) there are 2 types of hubs: a Standard and a Heavy Duty hub, both with the same length wheel studs, but different thicknesses. The ones with the thicker flange are the HD ones, and the studs don't protrude as much, which makes them unusable with spacers and Alloys.

The spacers referenced above are only compatible with the standard hubs, and apparently, a few on this board bought them and used them with success. As an aside, I also found out that Defender/110 wheels are hub centric, but the spacers above are not. Personally, even if I had the standard hubs, I wouldn't install those spacers, as they are not hub centric, which means that the weight of the wheels is resting on the studs and lug nuts. The proper hub centric wheel spacers are available out there and IMHO, they are the ones to use.

Much of that information comes from this post: http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=69638. Finally that post alludes to Wolf studs that can be swapped for the "short" studs on the HD axle. My question is: has anyone had experience with this, and where can Wolf studs be purchased, and they easy to swap out?
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old July 23rd, 2014, 05:02 PM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
Wrong Wheel Offset. Spacers good idea.

I'm sorry I don't understand. Do you mean all 5" and 6.5" steel wheels are lug centric?
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old July 23rd, 2014, 05:08 PM
Z.G's Avatar
Z.G
Status: Offline
Zack
300Tdi 95 D1
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Burlington, VT
Posts: 4,670
Registry
He's referring to the bolt pattern
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old July 23rd, 2014, 05:15 PM
samer0214's Avatar
samer0214
Status: Offline
Samer Hijazi
1997 P38 Vitesse
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 390
Registry
Understood now. Thanks. All 5 lugs on 6.5" wide steelies.

But what about Alloys? The ones on my rig now (Boosts) seem to be hub centric, and there certainly are hub centric spacers out there for Defenders?

https://www.motorsport-tech.com/4DCGI/switchtruckmodel
__________________
Thank you - Samer
1997 P38 Vitesse (Red)
2003 Discovery II
Defenderless, for now!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Tags
ac, fs, wheel

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is there a right and wrong way to lubricate the wheel hubs? Zooraya Defender Technical Discussions 30 July 1st, 2013 06:36 PM
Wiring Fuel Pump to a seperate switch, Good or bad idea? Neil McCauley Defender Technical Discussions 4 September 3rd, 2010 05:20 PM
Good Idea to cover spare tire holes on SW UtahD90 Wanted 8 November 11th, 2008 03:34 PM
110 wheel offset cdb Defender Technical Discussions 1 November 2nd, 2008 10:09 AM
Wanted RHD steering box or a Good Idea ! Moses Wanted 2 September 2nd, 2007 10:26 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:35 AM.


Copyright