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Old May 21st, 2012, 07:40 PM
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Would out-of-gas trigger a code/CEL?

I _almost_ got my truck back tonight. Started the truck (i.e. cold engine), switched to 1st gear to move, realized that the CEL was on ("crap, what's wrong now"), drove it out of the body shop lot and for 300 yards, got a a stop sign, lost power trying to leave the stop sign, saw a lot of (whitish) smoke, turned around, barely made it back (but I did; lucky me). Asked the guys if they had done a road test and got a resounding yes. Then I got a "it was almost out of gas".... There is a good chance that this is the problem, gauge is on empty, now engine will not start anymore (seriously, that was a 20 ft margin of error!).

Anyway, they'll put gas in the truck (not sure how much gas was left when I dropped of the truck, but... anyway...) and will try to fire it. Can the CEL be related to the "out of gas" condition? This is my first time running that truck out of gas, so I'm not sure what to expect.

Tomorrow, I'll also bring some fluid to fill up the clutch hydraulics... I knew it was low, the pedal now almost go to the floor. (and for those keeping tab, truck spent the past 7 months in the shop, so we have a lot to catch up with! ).

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Old May 21st, 2012, 07:43 PM
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on a 95 take a look at the ECU code ...
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Yeah, pull the code. Code or no code it shouldn't stop you starting it after putting some gas in. You know the drill - can you hear the fuel pump come on when you turn the key to the run position? Since they replaced the tub I'd be suspicious of the wiring at the tank.

But to be honest they should be getting it running for you! It worked fine when you dropped it off right?
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Old May 21st, 2012, 08:33 PM
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Well... I was not going to mess with it tonight, so I left it there (they did not have gas, they could only lend me a gas can; I have gas here/at home). The first code was 45 (oxygen sensor) but according to the site, it's often showing up when you have misfire/other issues. Since I did not remember the steps to pull the rest of the codes and the guy at the shop needed to leave I did not try further.
Fuel pump definitely turned on.

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It worked fine when you dropped it off right?
yeah, it did. I drove it there and back!
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Reset the code and fill with gas and drive around. If it is broken, it will come back.
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Since I did not remember the steps to pull the rest of the codes and the guy at the shop needed to leave I did not try further.
Just repeat what you did before and it will cycle through the codes. The final code will be 02 which just means you disconnected the ECU.
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Just to keep the group updated. I showed up this morning too late and the truck had 2 gal of gas in it and they had reset the CEL (the displayed showed 02 - battery disconnected). So... I think the out of gas triggered the code(s?).
I left it there to get some paint touch-up done. Maybe I'll get it back tomorrow.
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for those keeping tab, truck spent the past 7 months in the shop
It's been there since MAR?? What's been going on with it?
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It's been there since MAR?? What's been going on with it?
Almost since MAR. Got rear-ended late October. Very little apparent damage (to me at least), but sourcing a new/ok rear tire carrier was a tough one (found one here luckily!), rear step bumper was never found (they fixed mine) and getting a rear tub shipped correctly so it does not arrive in worst shape than the old one was a tough one apparently (I understand 2 or 3 tubs were shipped before that last one was used).
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So after 7 months to do it, they didn't inspect their work well enough that you found issues, and couldn't be bothered to throw some gas in it during the test drive to make sure you didn't need to? Remind me not to use this shop!
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No sense in paying anyone do to body work on a land rover other than painting it. The just f it up and slather on bondo etc.
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No sense in paying anyone do to body work on a land rover other than painting it. The just f it up and slather on bondo etc.
They promised no bondo. Not sure if I can get paid for doing work the insurance is paying for (I'd assume they'd want to have some kind of "certified shop" do the work).
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They promised no bondo. Not sure if I can get paid for doing work the insurance is paying for (I'd assume they'd want to have some kind of "certified shop" do the work).
Most states they will cut you a check for the damage and you can get it fixed how you see fit (or not).
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