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Old August 18th, 2011, 01:57 PM
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Question Would cranked terrafirma front & rear trailing arms make a huge difference?

Right now I'm running OME HD springs up in front for the ARB bar and winch and medium or soft duty springs in the rear. I have all original LR rubber bushings and front and rear trailing arms. Thanks to some audio equiptment and a subwoofers in the back, the back end sits a bit off to the left. So I'm thinking of throwing on a pair of OME heavy duty rear springs along with some new shocks. Would it be a good idea just to throw on Terrafirma trailing arms front and rear along with new OME polybushings? (already bought the bushings, not the trailing arms). Trying to see if its worth doing. I do no wheeling and so far I can't tell of any problems with the bushings other than they are old and the 2 inch OME springs do kinda make the big trailing arm bushings not sit totally flat. Any help is appreciated. thanks.

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Old August 18th, 2011, 02:14 PM
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What are you trying to accomplish? Please dont buy terrafirma, get some rear links from Keith! Best to use genuine bushings IMO, otoh they will do nothing to level your truck. If its leaning get a fatter girlfriend or try some of the disco II spring donuts to level it.

This is a first, my Defender needs HD springs for stereo equipment.
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What are you trying to accomplish? Please dont buy terrafirma, get some rear links from Keith! Best to use genuine bushings IMO, otoh they will do nothing to level your truck. If its leaning get a fatter girlfriend or try some of the disco II spring donuts to level it.

This is a first, my Defender needs HD springs for stereo equipment.
Yeah haha. Well its a 15 inch sub with a huge box. It's heavy. As far as what I'm trying to accomplish, i'd like to stiffen up its road manners. I don't do any offroading but I like the shiny look of the terrafirma arms. No fat chicks please.
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"I don't do any offroading" that might be a first too.
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fat chicks need love too. I think some of the terra firma is made in asia, rovertracks built in colorado! Doug Walker on this site was running some HD sway bars, maybe from Equipe? maybe I am crazy but it seems like my Defender handles really welleven without a rear sway bar and the OME suspension. it corners surprisingly well considering. I mean it could be as easy as more air in your tires? I think the defender has a pretty stiff ride.
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No fat chicks please.
I think more along your lines is to get two girlfriends, one sitting on the other.
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fat chicks need love too.
I saw a widow sticker in a lifted XJ the other day "LIFT YOUR TRUCK...FAT CHICKS CAN'T JUMP"

Keith makes some bomber stuff, you will not be disapointed. You could get some chrome rattle can paint if you need some LA Bling
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Cranked arms are ONLY to relieve bushing bind, they'll add some articulation but not much. If you're not currently going through bushings at an alarming rate then you don't need them.

If you want to level left/right then as mentioned the packer rings are the way to go.
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Cranked arms are ONLY to relieve bushing bind, they'll add some articulation but not much. If you're not currently going through bushings at an alarming rate then you don't need them.

If you want to level left/right then as mentioned the packer rings are the way to go.
I general....not really, as the OP mentioned front arms which are also generally used to correct caster to compensate for lift. The addition of some length of the rear arms (at least the version that I make and I'm pretty sure that Revor does the same) also help to keep standard geometry , and as you mentioned the *cranked* part helps with bushing bind.

I do share your opinion that in this case they are not needed, and as specified by the OP the Terrafirma brand arms would really only look the *part*.
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Awesome, I guess I'll keep em stock and just throw on some OME polys. The only real reason I wanted the new arms was then I wouldn't have to press out the old bushing from the old arms, just put the new ones right in with the poly bushings. It's cool. Thanks everyone.
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I will challenge as to quality of TF or other arms

I have had:

Equipe ( Stupid Ridiculous price )
TF nothing to envy to the above, much better price
Those 2 rear links are nothing to trust

QT better price, and much beefier

RTE, ugly, bad finish and nothing better than QT for the same price
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Other than being made in China by 10 year olds, there is nothing wrong with most of the Terrafirma stuff. I have the front cranked arms, shock towers, rear shock mounts, shocks, and a few other doodads and they have held up well over two years of abuse.
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Yeah. Chinese parts can go on out to the scrap trailer. Plenty of high quality accessories being built here by "members" on this board. I'd rather my truck rust into the ground than put Asian parts on it.
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Yeah. Chinese parts can go on out to the scrap trailer. Plenty of high quality accessories being built here by "members" on this board. I'd rather my truck rust into the ground than put Asian parts on it.
I see a lot of rust in your future
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The stock rear arms are hollow. If you decide to wheel it is real easy to bend the stock ones. Other than that, a 2" lift doesn't dictate the need for the clocked arms. When you did the OME stuff did you get the Left and Right springs? If so it might be the cause for the lean. Did you check the lean with the driver in the truck?
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The leans caused by the speaker box. I put the springs on the right way, when I take the box out its fine.
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Why not just ditch the ghetto sled sound system?
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Why not just ditch the ghetto sled sound system?
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When i fitted cfranked arms to my 110 and 90, i got about an extra inch (at least) of "droop" on full axle travel. no other mods done at that time.

I put this down to the lack of stress on the arm-chassis bush.

with droppped damper top mounts and relocation cones, you can get a little bit of extra axle travel, with no adverse changes to tarmac handling.
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Neil, from what I am hearing you just need to go to autozone or wherever and get some of those rubber blocks you can stuff in the springs on that side to lengthen them. I'd usually say this was stupid, but your'e not wheeling it and LA ain't DC so no worries.
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