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Old June 9th, 2011, 07:53 PM
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Won't start hot??

As posted my 94 d-90 won't start when it gets hot I can hear the starter turning slowly but it won't engage but if I wait a while or pour water on it to cool it off it starts right up (or bump start it) do I need a new starter yes the heat shield is on....?? thanks
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Old June 10th, 2011, 08:40 AM
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Check the wiring first. Make sure the cables to the starter from the battery are in good shape, and the terminals at both ends are clean and tight.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:29 PM
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done

Clean and tightened CHECK still same problem when hot I can hear the starter turning but it is not turning the motor or engaging I tried hitting the selenoid also but when it cools down it works is there a special way the heat sheild is suppose to be I know it's there and looks straight and all but???
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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:32 PM
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Sounds like the starter is failing. Everything has a service life.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:38 PM
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I thought that might be the case Thanks for the suggestions off the spend some $$$$ chachacha ching I was going to do the job myself but are the bolts a pain in the ass to remove and replace question being is it worth paying someone to do the job?
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I replaced mine with a brand new blingy Magnetti Marelli unit a few months ago for under $100 because it was sitting on a forum member's shelf...it's awesome. It is a job you can do yourself as long as you are strong (all were easy except the top bolt which was pretty stuck on mine...luckily Dan had smaller hands and a breaker bar to get more torque on it than I could!). You'll want a 6-12" extension for your socket.
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I think this was the trouble one. I can't remember. Note heat shield location as well.
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I replaced mine with a brand new blingy Magnetti Marelli unit a few months ago for under $100 because it was sitting on a forum member's shelf...it's awesome. It is a job you can do yourself as long as you are strong (all were easy except the top bolt which was pretty stuck on mine...luckily Dan had smaller hands and a breaker bar to get more torque on it than I could!). You'll want a 6-12" extension for your socket.
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Is this your BS attempt to tell us you are a strong man?

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Old June 10th, 2011, 02:44 PM
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Josh,

Is this your BS attempt to tell us you are a strong man?

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He had to call me up with my huge muscles to get that SUPER heavy starter out. Just got out of my hernia surgery the other day.

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I thought that might be the case Thanks for the suggestions off the spend some $$$$ chachacha ching I was going to do the job myself but are the bolts a pain in the ass to remove and replace question being is it worth paying someone to do the job?
It is simple to do. you need an 8mm hex for the bolts (don't know why LR put the one and only hex bolt in there to get filled with mud?). The bottom is easy to get, the top can be tricky. I usually unplug the two spark plug leads in the middle passenger side and stick my hand through there and put the hex and 6" extension on the bolt. then climb under the tuck and hook the ratchet to it and undo it that way.

put the new one in. get the bottom bolt started and somewhat snug, then come in from the top again with bolt hanging on hex and slip it into the hole. climb under and ratchet it tight. then tighten the bottom. hook up all your wires.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 03:07 PM
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He had to call me up with my huge muscles to get that SUPER heavy starter out. Just got out of my hernia surgery the other day.

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It is simple to do. you need an 8mm hex for the bolts (don't know why LR put the one and only hex bolt in there to get filled with mud?). The bottom is easy to get, the top can be tricky. I usually unplug the two spark plug leads in the middle passenger side and stick my hand through there and put the hex and 6" extension on the bolt. then climb under the tuck and hook the ratchet to it and undo it that way.

put the new one in. get the bottom bolt started and somewhat snug, then come in from the top again with bolt hanging on hex and slip it into the hole. climb under and ratchet it tight. then tighten the bottom. hook up all your wires.
Dan ... I heard you put ballast in your mouse to build up strength for changing starters ... ;-)
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Old June 10th, 2011, 06:57 PM
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Thanks for all the info folks I ordered 1 today and I'm gonna start eating my wheeties so I'll be good and STRONG but if i need some extra muscles I'll letcha know
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on a side note if your heat shield takes a crap, I bought one of those flexible heat shield in the form of a heat shield blanket and wrapped the starter in it. I think it was a lot cheaper than a new heat shield.

------ Follow up post added June 10th, 2011 07:52 PM ------

O... and the blanket was heavy too so I had to take my creatine and protein powder months in advance.
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