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Old November 27th, 2009, 11:08 AM
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Winter tire help

Non rover question but looking for some advice from people who live in parts of the country that have that weird stuff called snow. I have always lived in the south and will be relocating to the pacific northwest, I have a manual ford truck, plus I have a lead foot. With it raining in Florida I can't tell you how many times I have peeled out when leaving a traffic light or even started to hydroplane when the water gets to deep. I'm currently running some 17" general brand tires and am trying to figure out what runs best for those times that the road might have some ice. Is it better to have two sets? One for winter , one for summer? Or are the BFG's really the best all around tires? Where I'm going there won't be such a concern of snow but I don't want to hit some ice or something and total my truck.
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Old November 27th, 2009, 11:35 AM
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If you are living somewhere that has snow on the roads normally in the winter, it is worth it to have a second set of real winter tires. They are night and day compared to any all season. In the end, the tire cost is the same as you get twice as many years out of a set. BUT...if you have a lead foot, you will destroy winter tires very quickly on dry pavement...

Where in the PNW are you living? If near the coast, it is probably not worth the hassle.
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Old November 27th, 2009, 11:38 AM
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Old November 27th, 2009, 12:13 PM
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LOL ok, that was a good answer.
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Old November 27th, 2009, 02:47 PM
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The BFG A/T tire is hands down the best on-road, all-year round tire I have ever used. It is does exceptionally well in rain, slush and snow. The M/T tires are better for summer off road use but they do a lot worse in the snow than the A/T's. Two sets of tires are ideal but not necessary.
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Old November 27th, 2009, 03:12 PM
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Dunlop Radial Rover RT is my 1st choice by a wide margin on road and off. Fantastic for snow, ice (RT is studable), mud, dirt,...just a darn good tire.


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes....al+Rover+R%2FT

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Old November 27th, 2009, 03:49 PM
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Shit, i just lost like 2 full minutes looking (again) at Paul's avatar ...
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Old November 27th, 2009, 06:41 PM
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Goodyear fortera SA (silent armor- reinforced sidewalls). Just make sure you rotate them at each oil change. They tend to wear unevenly if you don't. Awesome tires.... good year around, for all seasons especially wet / snow.

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Old November 27th, 2009, 11:53 PM
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The BFG A/T tire is hands down the best on-road, all-year round tire I have ever used. It is does exceptionally well in rain, slush and snow. The M/T tires are better for summer off road use but they do a lot worse in the snow than the A/T's. Two sets of tires are ideal but not necessary.
They are no better on snow than any other AT. I was out wheeling the other day on ice and snow and my SSRs performed better than they did. Winter tires ar ea whole different league.
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Old November 28th, 2009, 01:13 AM
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Could very well be. I haven't tried many other A/T tires because I haven't found a reason to do so. Perhaps my awesome winter driving skills are compensating for the inferior performance of the BFG A/T's. I grew up driving in northern Sweden not to far from the Arctic Circle.

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They are no better on snow than any other AT. I was out wheeling the other day on ice and snow and my SSRs performed better than they did. Winter tires ar ea whole different league.
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RTs are good in snow and on ice. I have michelin winter tires on the lotus and they do really well, but frankly, if you need snow tires on a rover v. some sort of AT tire, you either live someplace where they don't salt or you should not be going out on the road.
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Old November 28th, 2009, 10:09 AM
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....if you need snow tires on a rover v. some sort of AT tire, you either live someplace where they don't salt or you should not be going out on the road.
4WD does nothing to increase traction when stopping. That is the important thing. Believe it or not salt does not work in many places in winter. It is only good to around -10 C (15 F).

If you live somewhere that has snow ON the roads for a reasonable length of time, winter tires are always a good choice. I've seen many unbelievers. 100% of the people I've met that have tried a set of winter tires will never go back to driving on an all seasons.
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B F Goodrich gets my vote, AT'S OR MT'S KM2
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Old November 28th, 2009, 11:42 PM
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I run Blizzaks in the winter. Nokian's are also awesome in the snow.

The BFG AT does ok in the snow, but a dedicated snow tire does way better, although the BFG AT is probably a great choice for the Pacific North West. BFG MT's, as stated earlier, are terrible in snow. How much snow does the area you're moving to see?
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Old November 29th, 2009, 12:40 AM
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Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow tires. They have amazing grip and stopping ability.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 01:16 AM
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4WD does nothing to increase traction when stopping. That is the important thing. Believe it or not salt does not work in many places in winter. It is only good to around -10 C (15 F).

If you live somewhere that has snow ON the roads for a reasonable length of time, winter tires are always a good choice. I've seen many unbelievers. 100% of the people I've met that have tried a set of winter tires will never go back to driving on an all seasons.
Fair point. Those are the people I am talking about. Canadian plains, north dakota, rural rockies etc. For most of us, when it is really bad and I really have to go somewhere, I just slap the chains on.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 08:49 AM
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[QUOTE=1000kva]I have a manual ford truck, plus I have a lead foot. With it raining in Florida I can't tell you how many times I have peeled out when leaving a traffic light or even started to hydroplane when the water gets to deep. QUOTE]

Bottom line is no tire is going to help you if you continue to drive like that, you will be in the ditch. First time it snows go find a big empty parking lot, pretend there is an egg taped to the gas and brake pedals, and learn.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 08:43 PM
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My moto is a crappy snow tire beats an AT any day for winter driving. I run with Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow tires, but also put snows on the family vehicles. Get a seperate set of rims for winter use, usually will pay for itself in less than 2 years of on and offs, unless you can do your own tire/rim changes.
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I use goodyear F32S for three months of the year. had the same set since 1998. you may be able to compete in one of those snow rallys on the wrc with these - incredibly soft. don't know if they make them anymore.

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