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Old December 13th, 2009, 01:13 PM
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Winter route north

So Im in tx at the family ranch about to head north to Seattle. Does anyone know of a reliable route north for a two wheel drive truck that is shorter than driving all the way to LA and then north? I'm trying to avoid driving extra distance if I don't need to, but also don't want to test my winter survival skills and end up like the donner party or something.
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Old December 13th, 2009, 01:49 PM
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I don't know where you are at in TX, but this is 300 miles shorter than going LA and up. Note the cut-offs from Ft Collins to Rawlins and Little America to Pocatello. If you go down the Columbia River Gorge and up I5 from Portland, this route has no mountain passes and is quite easy. Of course local weather conditions can change...

http://www.google.com/maps?f=d&sourc...,28.256836&z=5
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Old December 13th, 2009, 04:10 PM
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Jim, thanks for the help. Could you try and redo your link for me? It comes up broken? I'm outside of Kerville Tx but since I'm going to avoid the Rockies maybe just do it from El Paso?
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Old December 13th, 2009, 04:43 PM
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Hmm, works for me.

I think if you're in El Paso, its just shortest to go over to LA and up 5. Sux to drive the length of CA on 5, and the Siskiyous can get hairy in the winter, but that would be the worst of it.

Maybe this will work:

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<iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://www.google.com/maps?f=d&amp;source=s_d&amp;saddr=El+Paso,+Texas&amp;daddr=US-287+N+to:US-30+W+to:45.56791,-121.168213+to:Seattle&amp;geocode=FYCZ5AEdbSOn-SlpO_7Fiz_nhjEiAp2r44SR4w%3BFe6lbgIdrDu6-Q%3BFRAMggIdpBhj-Q%3B%3BFcJp1gIdWVy1-ClVM-iTLBCQVDGa1URpRmUlEA&amp;hl=en&amp;mra=dpe&amp;mrcr=0&amp;mrsp=3&amp;sz=7&amp;via=1,2,3&amp;sll=45.859412,-121.376953&amp;sspn=3.48105,7.064209&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=45.859412,-121.376953&amp;spn=3.48105,7.064209&amp;output=embed"></iframe><br /><small><a href="http://www.google.com/maps?f=d&amp;source=embed&amp;saddr=El+Paso,+Texas&amp;daddr=US-287+N+to:US-30+W+to:45.56791,-121.168213+to:Seattle&amp;geocode=FYCZ5AEdbSOn-SlpO_7Fiz_nhjEiAp2r44SR4w%3BFe6lbgIdrDu6-Q%3BFRAMggIdpBhj-Q%3B%3BFcJp1gIdWVy1-ClVM-iTLBCQVDGa1URpRmUlEA&amp;hl=en&amp;mra=dpe&amp;mrcr=0&amp;mrsp=3&amp;sz=7&amp;via=1,2,3&amp;sll=45.859412,-121.376953&amp;sspn=3.48105,7.064209&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=45.859412,-121.376953&amp;spn=3.48105,7.064209" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">View Larger Map</a></small>
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Nope, that didn't work either. Maybe Charles can explain why I can't embed a google map.
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Old December 13th, 2009, 06:04 PM
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It would probably work - but I'm viewing it on my iPhone. When I click on the link it just says unable to route because there's no actual cities. What are the names of the highways or what city are you starting from?
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Old December 13th, 2009, 06:46 PM
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just throwing in my .02:

Looking at the route he's proposing and knowing those roads... watch the weather closely...

Some of that route can get really dicey if the weather turns bad on you and how you define "mountain pass" may be different if you're from coming from Texas

If you really want to avoid winter weather issues then go the LA route but if you can get between storms and drive when the sun is out go the short route just do it understanding you're taking a gamble...

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The gist is that you go north to Denver, cut from Fort Collins to Laramie (cutting off a big chunk of interstate), head over to Little America on I80, and cut up through Kemmerer to Pocatello. Then just make sure you head all the way down the Columbia river gorge all the way to Portland, so that you don't have to go over a pass in the Cascades.

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Oh, I should add that if it was me, and I had my family in the car, I'd be going via the LA route...
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Paul try this link

http://tinyurl.com/yabpmqj

Jim, the link you posted works fine so it's probably an iphone limitation on URL lengths. The forums doesn't allow embedding stuff in posts (or at least how it's configured).
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Old December 13th, 2009, 11:01 PM
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Thanks for the try on the tiny URL but the iPhone takes it directly into the mapping program in the phone and it hangs because there's not a start or end that it can resolve. I think I'll just stick with I-10 to I-5 route I don't want to risk it with the storm that's supposed to be going through.
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Old December 13th, 2009, 11:26 PM
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Aah. I tried it on my iphone and it throws you into the map app which doesn't understand the syntax for the route customizations Jim made. Here is a picture
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Old December 13th, 2009, 11:51 PM
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That's how I would go.
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Old December 14th, 2009, 12:54 AM
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Paul I live in New Braunfels, grew up in Denver and went to college in Olympia. I have driven the route more times than I can tell you all though never at one time. Shortest route I have found from Texas to Denver is to take I-10 west to Junction go north on 83 to Eden then get on 87 take that all the way to Lubbock then go to Amarillo on I-27. On the north side of Amarillo get on 287 go through Dumas.

Now the map that was posted before this shows you taking what I think is 87 west out of Dumas to I-25 and up to Denver. I don't do that as it adds about an hour.

I stay on 287 and go up through the panhandle of OK and into SE Colorado. Up through Eads (where I use to live before moving to Texas) Kit Carson and on to Limon. I then take I-70 to Denver. This way is not as pretty as going right to the edge of the mountains but it also keeps you off the passes. You stay out on the prairie. So be mindful if you get caught in a storm to be prepared because you will be alone.

Ok Denver to the Seattle area. I 25 up to Ft. Collins take 287 North to Laramie WY. Pray for good weather. That use to be a two lane road in the mountains and probably still is. Driven it in a nasty spring storm. It can be done but is a little hairy. Any way take I 80 to I 84. You can cut up out of little america and go through Soda Springs and then hit 84 but seems to be faster to just stay on the interstate. Ride 84 to Portland and then I-5 up to Seattle.

That is the fastest way I have found. It is 18 hours from where you are to Denver and 24 25 to Seattle going that way. But it is a gamble. I would think the weather would be much better if you stayed south and whet all the way up I-5. Plus you would have a better chance of not getting stuck in a storm for Days as can happen on the route I gave you. and directions are easier 10 to 5 go right.

Hope this helps,
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Storm v. LA traffic, I would buy a set of chains and risk the storm.
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Storm v. LA traffic, I would buy a set of chains and risk the storm.
I dunno. You can at least circumvent the worst of the downtown L.A. traffic...

North eastern Oregon, OTOH, is a really big (and sometimes desolate), place to have a weather related problem...
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