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Old October 2nd, 2006, 08:46 PM
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Winch wiring in a 90

I am mounting my old Warn M8000 on the 90. Do you guys make custom cables to go all the way back to the battery or do you pull positive power from the lug on the starter ? The original cables that worked fine on the RR aren't long enough to reach the battery in the 90.
Open to any and all suggestions. Got to get this on for the MAR !
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Old October 2nd, 2006, 08:56 PM
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I think most people will recommend going straight to the batt. I took off the 2 AWG cables that came with my Husky 10 and bought some 1/0 from a welding store (ABBCO). I bought 2-9 ft lengths for the run to the batt comp and 1-2 ft length to parallel the batts. Total cost was around a hundred bucks. If I were to do it again, I would use 2-10 ft lengths. 9 ft fit exactly, if not a bit too short but I made it work. Check eBay for 1/0 welding cable if you go that route. I think you can get 50 ft for 99 bucks plus shipping. I would also put in a battery cutout switch in line with the winch while your installing it.
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Old October 2nd, 2006, 09:13 PM
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Thanks- living in a boating town even the local Ace hardware carries larged tinned copper battery cables. Just another project to get done in the next two days.
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Old October 2nd, 2006, 09:16 PM
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I agree completely!

Even though I've only got a winch on the Disco, I bought some 00 copper welding cable and solder on ends and shrink tubing to run the remote solenoids and the winch power too.

Works great and the cables never get (too) hot.

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Old October 2nd, 2006, 10:47 PM
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Old jumper cables work well too.
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Old October 2nd, 2006, 11:55 PM
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Welding cables, soldered ends & shrink tubing- to battery, Quick disconnects sold by EE in the engine bay (brilliant!).

I also use the quick disconnects on welding cable made into Jump cables, with one end crimps, one end quick disconnects. I can snap in to the engine bay winch cable to battery, with the other end being jump crimps to an auto on either side of the Rover. (brilliant)
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Old October 3rd, 2006, 12:50 AM
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I also used a couple of the superwinch quick disconnects from EE under the hood. I like this setup because I can leave the winch disconnected from the battery unless I need it. If I'm anticipating I might need to use the winch I can hook it up in a minute. Better still, if I find I need to use it unexpectedly I can still hook it up in a minute

Like Marc I also have a set of jumper cables rigged with a quick disconnect. I bought a set from Warn that come pre-terminated with a quick disconnect. I replaced the Warn Disconnect with the Superwinch version but didn't really have to. The disconnects are nearly identical. The only difference is the Warn unit is red and has a small plastic tab that the superwinch disconnect doesn't have. A little work with a Dremel would fix the problem with the tab but since I already had a spare Superwinch connector I just used it instead.

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On a side note, I finally got to use the jumper cables last week. A guy with an AMG mercedes that he had just bought. Jumpers didn't help. Disconnecting and re-connecting his battery solved the problem until he shut the car off. Unhook, reconnect restart etc. = $ 100,000 worth of week old technology with a seriously messed up computer or security system that would run well until he shut it off, at wich point it was time to disconnect, reconnect etc.

Has Mercedes or AMG started hiring their staff from Solihull
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I also used a couple of the superwinch quick disconnects from EE under the hood. I like this setup because I can leave the winch disconnected from the battery unless I need it. If I'm anticipating I might need to use the winch I can hook it up in a minute. Better still, if I find I need to use it unexpectedly I can still hook it up in a minute

Like Marc I also have a set of jumper cables rigged with a quick disconnect. I bought a set from Warn that come pre-terminated with a quick disconnect. I replaced the Warn Disconnect with the Superwinch version but didn't really have to. The disconnects are nearly identical. The only difference is the Warn unit is red and has a small plastic tab that the superwinch disconnect doesn't have. A little work with a Dremel would fix the problem with the tab but since I already had a spare Superwinch connector I just used it instead.

See attached pictures:

On a side note, I finally got to use the jumper cables last week. A guy with an AMG mercedes that he had just bought. Jumpers didn't help. Disconnecting and re-connecting his battery solved the problem until he shut the car off. Unhook, reconnect restart etc. = $ 100,000 worth of week old technology with a seriously messed up computer or security system that would run well until he shut it off, at wich point it was time to disconnect, reconnect etc.

Has Mercedes or AMG started hiring their staff from Solihull
where can I buy these quick disconnects? I tried ACE, LOWES, Radioshack, Menards.. only place I can find'em is ebay, I'd really like to just buy from a local store any ideas?
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Warn also sells them but you can get them way cheaper in eBay. Also not prices bad from 4Wheel Parts. If you have a local store in your town, shoot on over and they usally have sets of them on the shelf.
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Have you tried McMaster Carr?



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Old November 13th, 2006, 03:02 PM
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Hi Doug,


Warn uses 150 inch 1 gauge cables to connect battery power to the winch. Make sure that you use 1 gauge or larger cables, and both positive and negative need to be connected to the battery terminals. Smaller cables will result in volage drop which will effect winch performance.
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I used 1/0 gauge from the quick disconnect plug back to the battery - I seem to remember it took about 12-13 feet of cable to run the cable from the bumper back to the battery box. The wires from the plug to the winch are 1 gauge. The winch plug is hard mounted to the ARB and the main power cable can be disconnected and plugged into a set of jumper cables without opening the hood or the seat box.

http://www.mcmaster.com/
I got all of my cable, quick disconnect plugs and terminals from Mcmaster Carr.

Cable is on catalog page 750 - get the high-flex welding cable

connectors are on page 820 - I used the red 175 amp connectors
I also got a set of the 2 gauge 16 foot jumper cables on page 819 (#7234K53) and spliced ina pair of the quick disconnects about 15" from one end of the cables - that way I can use them either as conventional jumpers or plug them right into my main winch power cable.
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I believe this is what you're looking for: http://www.wranglernw.com/ShowCatego...ategoryid=1010

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Any forklift dealer in your area probably has stacks of the connectors on the shelf. They are used on electric forklift batteries.
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The connectors in question are called Anderson Connectors.
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Old November 13th, 2006, 04:47 PM
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I got mine from Expedition Exchange.

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/superwinch/
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I got mine from Expedition Exchange.

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/superwinch/
The only drawback to those is that "The QuickConnect handles 2-4 AWG power cables" which is nice for those using 2 AWG. but at $10 each ($20 for a pair) these anderson connectors from Waytek will work with the larger cable. 2/0 connectors are available too, but that is a "bit" excessive.

http://waytekwire.com (products, then type anderson into the product search)
and they come in all sorts of cool colors. and you can get the covers for $2 each (type cover into search)
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Old November 13th, 2006, 05:42 PM
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Thanks!

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The only drawback to those is that "The QuickConnect handles 2-4 AWG power cables" which is nice for those using 2 AWG. but at $10 each ($20 for a pair) these anderson connectors from Waytek will work with the larger cable. 2/0 connectors are available too, but that is a "bit" excessive.

http://waytekwire.com (products, then type anderson into the product search)
and they come in all sorts of cool colors. and you can get the covers for $2 each (type cover into search)
Thanks for all the help guys..
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I custom made a set of #1 cables; back to the battery. I just used a cutoff switch on the positive lead; you definitely don't want to leave the winch "live" all the time. I understand they are a popular vandalism target in Australia; and while our hoodlums are probably dumber, it's only of matter of time before they figure out the thrown-winch-cable-over-roof-and-attach-to-rear, turn-on-winch-with-paper-clips trick.
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which of these fits a Warn quick connect?
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