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Old April 9th, 2015, 10:28 PM
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winch wiring

For a D90 with the battery located under the seat box, online research shows the winch wiring length to be about 3m or 10 ft?

Does that seem right? I used a piece of twine and it seemed a foot or two longer.

Also, what gauge wire? The sources I looked up seem to be using UK electrical standards.
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Old April 9th, 2015, 10:56 PM
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No idea about length. I used 2/0. IIRC you can probably do 1/0 but I would not go smaller.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 04:21 AM
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10ft is about right if you run down the frame rail . It's more like 12-14ft if you run up and over the fender on the left side .
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Old April 10th, 2015, 07:09 AM
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10 feet is too short. at least 13 feet. i recently did my truck and 25 feet was a hair too short to make both ground and power cables. it was super frustrating to cut the right length power cable from 25 feet only to be a few inches too short on the ground side.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 07:53 AM
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Just a thought but I have used Jumper cable cords to run the wire. You need to get the HD ones that are #2 wire however. Lowes has a long set that I have used and the length is good. I have found it to be less expensive than just buying the wire. The wire is stranded with a thick coating but I do not know how it will hold up to extended winching. You do have to cut the ends and fix new ends but would have to do that anyway with most wires.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 09:02 AM
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For a D90 with the battery located under the seat box, online research shows the winch wiring length to be about 3m or 10 ft? Does that seem right? I used a piece of twine and it seemed a foot or two longer. Also, what gauge wire? The sources I looked up seem to be using UK electrical standards.
Hit the welding supply store nearest you for wire. Cheapest you will find as they simply sell a great deal of it.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 09:25 AM
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IMO, welding wire is better as well. Flexible, oil resistant, heat resistant.
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Get thee to thine local welding supply shop.

Nice flexy 2/0 or 1/0 file stranded copper cable with a substantial insulator...oh yeah, and they'll have cable ends and heat shrink tubing for you too.

No. it won't be as cheap as jumper cables...but then again, it won't be jumper cables....

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Old April 10th, 2015, 10:18 AM
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I used battery cables.
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Reviving an old thread instead of starting a new one........

Is 13 1/2 feet of 2/0 cable the ticket to a successful install? I'm hoping to get this done today if possible.
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Yes but x2 for + and - side


I ran under Rad support, down LH side frame rail then up into seat box, added heater hose at rub points.
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My bad, 27 feet total.
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You will have a little extra but better than too short. gives you routing options if frame rail isn't appealing..
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I personally think 2/0 is a waste. It has marginally better current capacity compared to 1/0 and costs more. I would buy 30 feet to be safe. Like Adam said, better safe than sorry.
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I find good value and quality in the welding wire that airgas (welding supplier) sells. They will even refill my powertank.
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I was planning on having them crimp the ends on at the welding shop.
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I run the entire length of the positive through a conduit made of heater hose. Anything nicking the insulation creates the opportunity for an unexpected welding incident or worse fire. Another suggestion is to use heat shrink with adhesive ie marine heat shrink on the ends to prevent water ingress. Twisted copper, especially large gauge, is prone to "going green" with air and moisture. Making the ends as weather tight as possible is the goal.
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I run the entire length of the positive through a conduit made of heater hose. Anything nicking the insulation creates the opportunity for an unexpected welding incident or worse fire. Another suggestion is to use heat shrink with adhesive ie marine heat shrink on the ends to prevent water ingress. Twisted copper, especially large gauge, is prone to "going green" with air and moisture. Making the ends as weather tight as possible is the goal.
that's brilliant
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that's brilliant
I have moments of clarity

Actually credit where credit is due, Pendy imparted the heater hose idea/wisdom to me, 10 plus years ago.
Miss that guy, hope he's well.
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I have moments of clarity

Actually credit where credit is due, Pendy imparted the heater hose idea/wisdom to me, 10 plus years ago.
Miss that guy, hope he's well.
Yeah, he kind of dropped off the planet, what ever happened to him??

As for useful info for this thread...

I saw a guy years ago who used Seal Tight Electrical conduit and right angle connectors to run the cables back to his battery box. He drilled holes (now we cringe at this, but 15 years ago not many owners through twice about it) in the seat box to fit the connectors, but its another thought for protecting the cable...

I ran 2/0 gauge welding cable, and put it in a plastic corrugated conduit to protect against chaffing, but the heater hose is probably a more durable solution..

I also updated the cables from the solenoids to the winch motor to larger (1 gauge I believe), fine strand welding cables when I had the original leads made up..
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