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Old July 2nd, 2014, 07:41 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm planning on getting a winch soon for my Defender. I just put a new front bumper on. I've decided I want either a Warn 9.5 CTi-s or the Warn Zeon 10-s. Either will fit.

I can't really see that there is much difference other than price. The Zeon is at least $200 cheaper. Any insights as to why or whether one of these is more appropriate?

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Old July 2nd, 2014, 07:54 PM
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The CTI is a better winch. Quite a bit faster, overheat monitoring and more space for the rope.
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Thanks for the comments.

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Yes, feet down.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 10:29 PM
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recommended you do it yourself with the aid of a D90 friend and a few libations...plan it out and buy a proper amount of cable as the stock cables may not be long enough for proper routing. Dual battery set up maybe desired but not required...lots of opportunity to think forward on this type of project!
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Good advice. Thanks
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I just looked at the specs on the Zeon 10. It is sssssssslllllllllloooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww. Comparing specs to my M12000, about the same slow.

My M12000 is so slow, I sit there and I'm like, is it actually pulling me? Finally it kicks in and its just stupid slow. Full pulls take forever and you sit there wondering if you are going to burn something out in the process.

With a faster winch, you just spend less time being SOL. Lets say you are in a situation at dusk. And despite being good weather in late November, the temp starts randomly dropping like a rock with winds that feel like its a thousand mph. You've got the better part of a full pull and your buddies dog gives you the "why are we here and why is this happening...can we go home now??" look as you stare at the map trying to figure out where you are which is getting difficult because its NOW DARK. Waiting on 4 feet per minute begins to suck A LOT.

This is all assuming you don't have 7 rigs behind you pressuring you to hurry up.

I'd say get the fastest winch you can. The 9.5 is a good idea. Yes they are more expensive but its worth it. You start talking about 20% or 30% faster and that actually makes a huge difference.

I'm seriously considering ditching my M12000 for a faster winch. Its that slow.

Get synthetic, of course.

Lastly, you'll never use a pulley block with a big winch like what you've selected.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 08:07 AM
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There were just two for sale on here...search the for sale section. They (Warn 9.5 cyi) (http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...523#post542523) were listed at a good price. Picking up a wireless Warn remote is pretty sweet also...plug and pull...
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Lastly, you'll never use a pulley block with a big winch like what you've selected.
Still well worth having for odd geometry pulls of other vehicles and such.
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Always worth it to have a snatch block, minimum of 1 but I've used 2 in several snowy side slope situations.
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I just looked at the specs on the Zeon 10. It is sssssssslllllllllloooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww. Comparing specs to my M12000, about the same slow.

My M12000 is so slow, I sit there and I'm like, is it actually pulling me? Finally it kicks in and its just stupid slow. Full pulls take forever and you sit there wondering if you are going to burn something out in the process.

With a faster winch, you just spend less time being SOL. Lets say you are in a situation at dusk. And despite being good weather in late November, the temp starts randomly dropping like a rock with winds that feel like its a thousand mph. You've got the better part of a full pull and your buddies dog gives you the "why are we here and why is this happening...can we go home now??" look as you stare at the map trying to figure out where you are which is getting difficult because its NOW DARK. Waiting on 4 feet per minute begins to suck A LOT.

This is all assuming you don't have 7 rigs behind you pressuring you to hurry up.

I'd say get the fastest winch you can. The 9.5 is a good idea. Yes they are more expensive but its worth it. You start talking about 20% or 30% faster and that actually makes a huge difference.

I'm seriously considering ditching my M12000 for a faster winch. Its that slow.

Get synthetic, of course.

Lastly, you'll never use a pulley block with a big winch like what you've selected.

Great insight and advice. Thank you!
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Lots of good insight from everyone.

If I went with a 9.5 CTi and purchased the correct fairlead, hook and synthetic rope, does anyone know what capacity the winch has for # of feet of synthetic rope?

Also; any recommendations on rope?

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In the northeast you rarely need more than 100', and the winch pulls hardest when there's less rope on the drum. You can also pick up a 50' winch extension if need be.
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Yeah 100' is plenty 99.999% of the time! IMO
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Sure, but carry an extension rope for when it is not enough.
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Another option to consider is the Goodwinch, TDS-9.5 These are designed for serious use by people that use winches in competition.
http://www.dborc.co.uk/goodwinch/pdf...ifications.pdf
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In the northeast you rarely need more than 100', and the winch pulls hardest when there's less rope on the drum. You can also pick up a 50' winch extension if need be.
Sound advice here, depending on where you normally wheel consider 80' + an extension. I've run 100' most of the time, and even on the east coast I've needed it + an extension on multiple occasions. All depends on where, and who, you wheel with.
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