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Old April 28th, 2011, 08:48 AM
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Will a 300tdi run on kerocene?

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till the pump blows.

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I know a lot of guys that run Farm Diesel to save a few bucks. Most officers will not check that when you get pulled over (somebody has to rat you out basically)...
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I have used it when running low and pull into a station that doesn't sell diesel but does sell kerosene. OK for spot/sporadic use but not good for a full tank etc. This is escpecially true for the "clear" kerosene sold for heater use.
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Up here we buy 50/50 all winter. 50% kero 50% diesel. It is only good in very cold weather and pings like crazy if we get an odd warm snap.
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It will if it's mixed 20/80 with used motor oil. Although the people here that run UMO usually just cut it with petrol as that's easier to buy than "paraffin" (Brit speak for kerosene).
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....with used motor oil....
NO!!!!! Not with a "modern" diesel. The additives in the oil cannot burn and will destroy the injectors and make the rings stick.
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NO!!!!! Not with a "modern" diesel. The additives in the oil cannot burn and will destroy the injectors and make the rings stick.
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Mid 90s modern, yes. Motor oil and ATF in fuel is for old style diesels.
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I'm a bit confused as to what is ok and what isn't

If one is to run on used motor oil, what level of filtering beforehand is sufficient? I feel like engine flakes might not be the best being sprayed through tiny injectors. ATF I'm sure is fine, but a bit thick.

Kerosene seems fine if cut with diesel, I'm just not sure how to tell the different types though.
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A number of people on the forums here in the UK run 200TDi's and 300TDi's on used oil of various origins -- motor oil, hydraulic oil, ATF, gear oil... They filter it before using, cut it a reasonable viscosity with gasoline, and swear it works fine and has no detrimental effects. And, it's generally free, which is a strong incentive in the land of $8.50 a gallon diesel.

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I know a lot of guys that run Farm Diesel to save a few bucks. Most officers will not check that when you get pulled over (somebody has to rat you out basically)...
Here in the UK, diesel for off-road use carries a red dye, and if you get caught running it on the road, it's big trouble. Stops for fuel checks are reasonably common, the police carry test kits and will dip the tank and deliver the verdict on the spot.
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All good info. The reason I was asking was because I have about 5 gallons left over from the the heater. I guess I can mix it in a bit at a time every tank full then...
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till the pump blows.

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I know a lot of guys that run Farm Diesel to save a few bucks. Most officers will not check that when you get pulled over (somebody has to rat you out basically)...
If you are stopped at a checkpoint run by State Troopers in VA they will check your tank for offroad diesel. The size of your tank determines the category of the offence. Anyother common misconception is that you can run offroad diesel with "Farm Use" plates on a truck. We need to be registered as a farm to buy offroad or they will charge you full price, the Reefer drivers complain about that.
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If you are stopped at a checkpoint run by State Troopers in VA they will check your tank for offroad diesel. The size of your tank determines the category of the offence. Anyother common misconception is that you can run offroad diesel with "Farm Use" plates on a truck. We need to be registered as a farm to buy offroad or they will charge you full price, the Reefer drivers complain about that.
I wouldn't mess with it, besides there are not too many farm diesel places in North New Jersey. But I know a guy in Kanasa that has an AUX tank in the bed he keeps the red diesel in there, and the regular stuff in the tank if he is ever checked..... (the Red is for his "farm equipment"). The only way he will ever get busted is if they check his injectors.

Back on topic. I think a lot of Military Generators can run on Kerosene (current production ones).
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OK, let's reiterate....

You should not put in stuff like motor oil or ATF. Both have additives that cannot burn. These additives can and will build up inside the engine.

Kerosene can work, but need SAFE lubricity additives such as diesel fuel conditioners or biodiesel.
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