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Old December 19th, 2012, 06:44 PM
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Wheel Spacers for Drum Brakes??

I recently ordered some wheel spacers for my '93 NAS 110 and the sales rep said I needed the 50mm spacers (2") since my truck has drum brakes on the rear. The 50mm spacers were considerably higher ($$) than the 30mm but that is what he said I needed. Well, I waited 3 weeks for them to arrive and they measure to be 1.25" (30mm). All 4 spacers are identical. Should there be a difference in the ones for the front disc brakes and rear drum brakes. I am thinking not, but could be wrong. Here is the response from the rep:

"I have been informed the wheel spacers are correct. The 50 mm was a typo. The drum type wheel spacers are specially produced to fit the vehicle. The standard 4 wheel disc spacers will not fit drum vehicles. This is why there is the price difference. So you have receive the correct part. If decide to return them that is OK as well. I am sorry about the confusion."

I have just seen other 30mm set for much cheaper and I'm not able to make sense of the "typo" since 50mm is what he said I needed...that is on the invoice...and on the box label that they showed up in. Any advice/guidance is appreciated.
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Spacers don't care what's inboard of the hubs. . .
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Mind if I ask where you ordered them from? I'm going to need a set when my 90 arrives.

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Mind if I ask where you ordered them from? I'm going to need a set when my 90 arrives.

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Because you want to pay the higher price from a place that clearly doesn't know their arse from their elbow?
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Old December 19th, 2012, 10:33 PM
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I'm running 1.5" spacers on my Salisbury rear drums. Seem to work fine
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I recently ordered some wheel spacers for my '93 NAS 110 and the sales rep said I needed the 50mm spacers (2") since my truck has drum brakes on the rear. The 50mm spacers were considerably higher ($$) than the 30mm but that is what he said I needed. Well, I waited 3 weeks for them to arrive and they measure to be 1.25" (30mm). All 4 spacers are identical. Should there be a difference in the ones for the front disc brakes and rear drum brakes. I am thinking not, but could be wrong. Here is the response from the rep:

"I have been informed the wheel spacers are correct. The 50 mm was a typo. The drum type wheel spacers are specially produced to fit the vehicle. The standard 4 wheel disc spacers will not fit drum vehicles. This is why there is the price difference. So you have receive the correct part. If decide to return them that is OK as well. I am sorry about the confusion."

I have just seen other 30mm set for much cheaper and I'm not able to make sense of the "typo" since 50mm is what he said I needed...that is on the invoice...and on the box label that they showed up in. Any advice/guidance is appreciated.

No idea who the vendor is but I'd say you had your leg pulled by that sales rep.
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Mind if I ask where you ordered them from? I'm going to need a set when my 90 arrives.

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I just got a message from the rep saying that "the spacers are correct, that they are specially built for defenders with rear drums because the hubs are a different size". I thought I was paying the higher price for the 2" spacers but he is saying that it was a clerical error and they are 30mm (1.25"). There was about a $150 difference in price, from the 30mm to the 50mm, that I'm just not able to make sense of right now...unless there is, in fact, a difference in my hubs and someone can verify that to me. I feel like I am dealing with a reputable source here, but I'm not feeling too good about this deal...
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Old December 21st, 2012, 02:26 PM
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Issue resolved...looks like I will be running the 30mm (1.25") spacers and will be credited back the difference. Faith and relationship restored with Rovers North. I feel they handled the problem fairly and will continue to trade with them.
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Rovers North was the culprit???? Yikes.
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Reviving this old thread. I've got conflicting responses on which spacers are needed for rear drums and need some clarification. In the past I've always bought the "made to order" spacers from RN for rear drums/front discs (cost $500 set of 4). Now I've been told that the TF-301's which are considerably less money also work just fine on rear drums (Sals axle). So what is the correct answer here? Anyone using the 301's on rear drums? Or is it necessary to continue buying the $500 set from RN?

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Old May 10th, 2017, 11:05 AM
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I too would be interesting in knowing... I've heard conflicting info, and I've been told the 301s will work, but also that the ones we have made are necessary. I'd rather just sell the 301s if that's the case
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Old May 10th, 2017, 11:47 AM
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Well I was able to attempt fitting them to a rear series axle with drum brakes, no bueno. The lip on the 301s don't allow for install. I don't have a Defender with rear drums here to test, but if I'm able to find one, I will
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Old May 10th, 2017, 12:02 PM
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I would imagine if it didn't work on the series it won't work on a defender but keep us posted.

What if the rear axle assembly was swapped out for a D1 assembly and the front axle was left alone (disc). Would the 301's work then? I know they work on D1's but curious if that $500 spacer set has a different front vs rear spacer in the set. I can't remember if they are the same spacer or not. So in short: swap rear drum axle and buy the 301's. ?
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Yes, they would.

No, it's the same spacer front and rear, it just doesn't have the lip so that it can slide all the way down.
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Old May 10th, 2017, 12:23 PM
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Ok. So remind me what the $500 spacers look like. Attached are some pics of some random spacers I bought that need a replacement stud (see pics) (I believe the bolt can be replaced with this STUD, 252621 - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts Zack maybe you can verify?)
These spacers are 1 1/2 " but it's brand is unknown. So I'm curious if these look like the ones that fit the drums or not. No clue what these are but would like to know so they can be used.

Whatcha think Zack?
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Those are identical to the ones we have made, they don't have the lip that prevents sliding down over the flange like the TF301s do

------ Follow up post added May 10th, 2017 01:20 PM ------

Ours next to the TF301s. I'm guessing if you cut that lip off, you could use them
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Looks like the random spacers I got would fit and work fine (still curious if these are the same as the $500 set made for drums from RN). Some pics to show fitment. The only difference I see when comparing the front disc spacer and the rear drum spacer is the slight amount of flange that protrudes from the spacer on the disc vs. the smaller amount on the drum spacer. (hard to describe so hopefully you get the point from the pics). Also, a regular steel wheel lug nut LUG NUT STEEL WHEELS SERIES III,DEFENDER,RANGE ROVER CLASSIC, DISCOVERY I, RNS066, RRD500010 - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts will not fit inside the stud hole to secure the spacer to the hubs (see pics). When I bought these spacers they came with the smaller lugs (also seen in pics) which I'm assuming since they fit inside the stud holes that they are the ones used to secure the spacer to the hub. Again, it's been about a year since I had to put a set of spacers on so I forget if that's normal to use different sized lugs for securing the spacer. At any rate, hopefully we can draw some conclusions on this spacer dilemma as it seems there are other guys out there still curious and trying to save some money from buying the $500 spacer set.
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Those are identical to the ones we have made, they don't have the lip that prevents sliding down over the flange like the TF301s do

------ Follow up post added May 10th, 2017 01:20 PM ------

Ours next to the TF301s. I'm guessing if you cut that lip off, you could use them
Zack......if I want to replace the studs on these would I use: STUD, 252621 - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts

or
STUD, 252516, RNQ416 - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts

Also, how the hell do I get the existing studs out? I'd imagine they spin out but is there any trick to getting them out without screwing up the spacer?
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I recently ordered some wheel spacers for my '93 NAS 110 and the sales rep said I needed the 50mm spacers (2") since my truck has drum brakes on the rear. The 50mm spacers were considerably higher ($$) than the 30mm but that is what he said I needed. Well, I waited 3 weeks for them to arrive and they measure to be 1.25" (30mm). All 4 spacers are identical. Should there be a difference in the ones for the front disc brakes and rear drum brakes. I am thinking not, but could be wrong. Here is the response from the rep:

"I have been informed the wheel spacers are correct. The 50 mm was a typo. The drum type wheel spacers are specially produced to fit the vehicle. The standard 4 wheel disc spacers will not fit drum vehicles. This is why there is the price difference. So you have receive the correct part. If decide to return them that is OK as well. I am sorry about the confusion."

I have just seen other 30mm set for much cheaper and I'm not able to make sense of the "typo" since 50mm is what he said I needed...that is on the invoice...and on the box label that they showed up in. Any advice/guidance is appreciated.
I'm running 25mm no-name spacers from ebay on my 90 rear drums w/o any issue. For $180 I had to give them a try...just couldn't pull the $500 RN trigger.
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