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Old September 21st, 2013, 08:42 AM
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What's a fair price for the following work:

Dropped off my DCPU to get a brake job (new rotors & calipers all around). Also, replaced the 3 flexible brake lines while they were at it.

I'll be picking up the truck on Monday & just want to know approx the ballpark price to pay for labor. I provided all the parts.

Thanks for any insight, just want to make sure I don't get taken advantage of...
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Old September 21st, 2013, 08:52 AM
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Did you get a quote first?
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Old September 21st, 2013, 08:55 AM
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God no. that would have been intelligent.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 09:11 AM
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Old September 21st, 2013, 09:17 AM
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One million dollars.
yup yup, point taken. It's a local shop, so I think there's good faith there. I was an oversight not to get a quote, but I can't do much about that now.

It would be helpful to know a ballpark range, to decide if I'll be using them in the future.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 09:30 AM
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This is out of my ass... but here is a guess:

@$70/hr labor

1x Rotor = 1 hour
1x Caliper = 1 hour
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2 hours... x 4 wheels = 8 hours labor

Pull old lines, install new ones... bleed to complete = 2 hours

10 total @ $70 = $700 labor. Plus tax?

All complete guesses, but by not getting a quote and signing a work order, you have opened yourself up to the same type of estimation/math as I just did. Wouldn't be surprised if its higher.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 09:53 AM
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Yes. I made a mistake. Was foolish to do it, I'll see what happens. Thanks for trying to give me a ballpark. appreciate that.

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This is out of my ass... but here is a guess:

@$70/hr labor

1x Rotor = 1 hour
1x Caliper = 1 hour
-------------------------
2 hours... x 4 wheels = 8 hours labor

Pull old lines, install new ones... bleed to complete = 2 hours

10 total @ $70 = $700 labor. Plus tax?

All complete guesses, but by not getting a quote and signing a work order, you have opened yourself up to the same type of estimation/math as I just did. Wouldn't be surprised if its higher.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 10:01 AM
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Let us know how the sorry ends... Happily ever after?
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Old September 21st, 2013, 10:44 AM
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Yes. I made a mistake. Was foolish to do it, I'll see what happens. Thanks for trying to give me a ballpark. appreciate that.
I'll be anxious to hear how it turns out. I used to work in service. About 7/10 asked for a rough estimate 'quote'. 2/10 asked to be called if it went over a certain number. 1/10 never asked for a quote -- just gave a list of 'wants' and said call when its done. I always tried to look out for the customer... but for that 1/10 I always figured price wasn't an object. Generally I was right -- those were the folks who wouldn't bat an eye and would just pull out their credit card.

I'd recommend stopping by today and talking to the mechanic doing the work... not to pester about price but just to talk about the truck and the work done. Not always, but you'd be suprised how that will factor in to their hours-estimate.
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All it will take is one frozen fastener to set them back a few hours. Just saying, working on a 20 plus year old Defender is full of unknowns.

It should take less than two hours per corner, but like I said.....if there's one crusty part that gives them fits it could be longer.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 11:05 AM
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thanks again. I'll post up the results.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 11:31 AM
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Are the going to repack the hubs, replace seals, etc?
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Old September 21st, 2013, 11:34 AM
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yes, absolutely
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Old September 21st, 2013, 11:49 AM
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Buckhead LR Atlanta quoted $2200 not including bearings. You can buy parts for as little as $350 or $550 for genuine. Add $200 or so for bearings, seals, and lines. So. somewhere between $550 and $2200.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 12:17 PM
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Buckhead LR Atlanta quoted $2200 not including bearings. You can buy parts for as little as $350 or $550 for genuine. Add $200 or so for bearings, seals, and lines. So. somewhere between $550 and $2200.

I'm interested to see how this turns out.
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yes, absolutely
Too bad you didn't message me. You could have come up with the parts and and we knocked it out in a morning.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Fair price and dealer rarely go together in the same sentence.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 12:59 PM
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Fair price and dealer rarely go together in the same sentence.
Just depends. The only dealer in my little town is a Suzuki dealer, and a few years ago they lost their financing so they are unable to buy new cars unless you are ordering one. Their service department is just as cheap as any independent garage in the area, and I can walk there if I need.

Of course this is a special situation.

The closest land rover dealer, in Tulsa, marks everything up. I called the parts guy for a TSB mentioned oil pressure switch for a D1. He accidentally quoted me msrp of $7 or whatever, and then had the nerve to call me back and say the price was really $22.
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Old September 21st, 2013, 01:28 PM
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My issue with dealers is the charge for jobs by a rate card. Will charge above if the job takes longer ... Stuck fastner etc. But never lower.

The mechanics are incentivized / compensated / instructed to do more than 40 rate card hours in a week.

So by design I'm not getting my value as defined by the manufacturer. The difference between the time a mechanic can rush a job through and the book rate goes into the pocket of the dealer.

In essence I pay for something I don't receive. But worse still it's packaged up as if I'm getting it.

Added to that in my experience dealers break more than they fix ...

That all being said there are some very good people out there making an honest living doing honest quality value for money work. And those people I salute!!
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Old September 21st, 2013, 03:12 PM
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Labor only I would expect to pay $800-1000 from an independent, $1500 from a dealer.

Parts from a dealer would be astronomical as calipers are $500 each.
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