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Old March 19th, 2006, 06:56 PM
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It seems that once someone has been indoctrinated into which winch they shall think is the best, they rarely change their mind. Name any brand winch and i've seen them broken. There was a rash of Warn X9's dropping dead recently, but as one owner of a failed X9 explained to me "Warns are still the best out there." Whatever.
The heat buildup issue on the drum is often thrown about- but how often do you power out your winch more than a few seconds? I can only recall maybe three times in 19 years of driving things with winches on them that I had to power out a significant distance.
Any decent winch will provide good service if installed properly, maintained properly and used properly. It's more of a "luck of the draw" if the particular individual one you got will have a defect or not- just like the "luck of the draw" when you get a Rover. Some are inexplicably better than the identical one sitting next to it.
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Old March 19th, 2006, 10:26 PM
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Very well said. Problem is the majority of winch users disagree with you. Like evidenced in the above posts. And the problems that you speak of don't stop the majority of even competition winchers from using Warn. I would not have had any issue with your statement if you had said "In my opinion", because its an opinion. Do you have a picture of a new Warn with a broken case like that? I've never seen one, but I don't get around that much. Cheers
OK, it's all my opinion plus my observations of failures and performance of a large number of winch equipped Land Rovers.

The Warn 8274 is a very good winch, but of a completely different design that the regular consumer Warn winches. I was not talking about it.

The Warn competition winches that are made for synthetic cable have different kind of brake and so do not have the heatin gproblem but the common 8500-10k Warn winches do have it.

The Superwinch is heavier, slower, but I have found it to soldier along better in heavy use. Still, if I were racing I could see using a lighter speedier Warn because my goals would be different.

I have never seen a Warn case broken in the manner of your photo but I've seen plenty broken in other ways.
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I have a Warn9000 on my truck. Not the highspeed one, the older slow one. It works for me when I need it. Mike has a good point about the fast ones - its easy to loose a finger if you are not paying attention.
If you plan to really use and abuse the winch (racing, comp etc.) then I'd say really look at the discussion. But for *most* of us, occasional use is where its at. I suspect that both rover-girl and rover-chic fall into this category (I know I do). Warn should suffice. Husky should suffice. I would venture that Ramsey would also. YMMV. IMHO.
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Aw hell. Just go with the new warn 9.0 RC winch and save yourself 24 pounds on the front. Buy a 50 foot or 100 foot extension and you're done.
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Rover-Girl: What did you end up with? Iam still researching what will work for me.
Well...nothing yet...talk about opening a can of worms LOL
I think I'll put it on the back burner for now and do some
belly protection, like a skid plate, some differential & pinion-protection
definitely the rock sliders w/ step from scorpion racing and such.

For this weekend I'll have the Tie Rod Ball joint & drop arm repaired
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Just out of curiosity..what type winch does the US Military use !!??

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Old March 30th, 2006, 11:06 PM
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Depends on the truck. Big honking PTO winches on the big trucks. Oversizes hydraulic milemarkers on the humvee's. Sometimes, they just call in a helicopter. More often than not if you get stuck enough to need a winch they use a dedicated recovery vehicle. These are converted tanks or Semi-sized off road trucks that have big cranes, massive winches and all sorts of other goodies.


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Old March 31st, 2006, 02:52 AM
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Christine,
assuming you're going to operate the winch yourself sooner or later (got stuck alone somewhere),
I'd recommend,whatever the brand
- training,so to understand how things work and how dangerous these toys can be
- a pulley (2 are even better) and proper straps etc

All in the name of safety
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David.... I like that winch a lot but a bit small on the reel side. I think it would be a pain in the ass with an extention all the time. What do you think. Christine, when its time, www.winchdepot.com
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True, but how often do you fully unspool your winch on the East coast? By the time you've broken out the tree strap, you can determine if an extension is necessary. We have far more trees to hook up to.

I dropped my line to 85' both so I could get more pull with fewer wraps, and the fact that 100' of 3/8 on a warn 9k winch barely fits and annoyed me every time I went to respool at the end of the day.

Of course this was only a suggestion on the RC. I haven't gone that route yet.
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I def. like the Idea David. Its lighter too...and comes with the synth rope so you really dont have to buy it after.... I guess You do have a good point. Especially with a good size tree strap anyway. I want to get my winch soon so now you have me thinking.. Would there be a down side to that winck other then the 9.5ti
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Old March 31st, 2006, 11:38 AM
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Just do it!

I would consider it too if I were in the market for a winch. I was actually thinking it was the perfect rear winch, but then talked myself out of any perceived "need" for something like that in the rear...

BUT, it would be neat to make a very minimalist bumper with the winch incorporated in it on the front.

9.0RC Line Pull
Lbs.(Kgs.) Line Speed
FT./min(M/min.) Motor
Current Pull by layer
layer/Lbs(Kgs.)
0 42 (12.8) 80 amps 1/900 (4082)
2000 16 (4.88) 200 amps 2/7280 (3302)
4000 11.9 (3.63) 285 amps 3/6670 (3026)
6000 9.79 (2.98) 350 amps 4/6230 (2826)
8000 8.01 (2.44) 435 amps
9000 6.4 (1.94) 465 amps

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Line Pull
Lbs.(Kgs.) Line Speed
FT./min(M/min.) Motor
Current Pull by layer
layer/Lbs(Kgs.)
0 38(11.6) 70 amps 1/9000(4082)
2000(910) 14.4(4.39) 180 amps 2/8190(3715)
4000(1810) 11(3.35) 255 amps 3/7500(3402)
6000(2720) 8.67(2.64) 330 amps 4/7010(3180)
8000(3630) 6.88(2.10) 415 amps
9000(4080) 6.38(1.94) 460 amps
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Hey Rover "Sista" You need some of these...Red Lips FairLead! Easy to kiss with!
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lol! Nice Melisa! Does that color go well with the color of the Disco?
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LOL... Oh my.. Do you guys see any down side to that Warn 9.0Rc over the 9.5Ti? Now that David brought it up, I am thinkin' of buying it soon...
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LOL! No but it matches my sweet HID Hella Lights well!
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LOL... Oh my.. Do you guys see any down side to that Warn 9.0Rc over the 9.5Ti? Now that David brought it up, I am thinkin' of buying it soon...
There's only a couple potential downsides (I have never owned one). The 50 feet would bug me, but like was said earlier, it might not be a problem for you. Also, if the winch is only smaller in width, but has the same depth, then it won't do you any good. There is plenty of room for width but very little for depth (but, I did get the winch to extend only one inch past the frame with a lot of cutting). Also, are you going to build your own bumper, if so, it could be sweet. If you are going to get a store bought one, then you have gained nothing again. And lastly, the red would bug me. I'm a poser, I know.
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And lastly, the red would bug me. I'm a poser, I know.
LOL! I know, I know I am such a Poser! Yes that is my fairlead. It is not yet installed as I have to do the third member before I mess with a winch.

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LOL! I know, I know I am such a Poser! Yes that is my fairlead. It is not yet installed as I have to do the third member before I mess with a winch.

Dave- It's a girl thing you would not understand!
Oh, I meant the red warn rc winch. The lips, on the other hand, are just fine by me.
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