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Old April 24th, 2014, 11:51 PM
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what should I expect to pay(paint - color change)

I've got a 1995 soft top that is white and in need of a paint job. I prefer AA yellow. What should I expect to pay? And should I look for the best pure play paint shop or focus on a shop that is an expert on taking apart and re-assembling a Defender even if they don't paint quite as well? Assume no body work. There is some but I want a baseline price and then I'll go from there.

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Old April 25th, 2014, 12:00 AM
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Complete color change $8k. Resprayed in factory white, $3500-$4000. Defenders should be easy for any real body shop to take apart so I would focus on whatever quality level of paint job you are going to be satisfied with
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Old April 25th, 2014, 12:03 AM
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When I rebuilt my 110, I also did a color change. The entire body was in individual pieces. I did all of the body work and paint prep, including hanging pieces in the paint booth. The guy who did the painting (prime and color) charged ~2500 including the primer and paint. Frankly, the paint, primer and labor was the cheap part of the job. Good prep work is an Enormous task. If I had paid a descent shop to do the tear down and prep work it would was been 4-5x the cost.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 12:12 AM
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I'm a bit naive probably. Why is it so much less to stay factory white? I get that the inside of the tub would not have to be painted but wouldn't the bulkhead have to be removed regardless?
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Old April 25th, 2014, 12:17 AM
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If she needs rust repair then yes and the cost would go up, if just faded out of shape paint, no. All trim pieces will need to removed, top panels, etc, but not the bulkhead. Not changing interior and firewall color saves a fortune.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 12:30 AM
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When I rebuilt my 110, I also did a color change. The entire body was in individual pieces. I did all of the body work and paint prep, including hanging pieces in the paint booth. The guy who did the painting (prime and color) charged ~2500 including the primer and paint. Frankly, the paint, primer and labor was the cheap part of the job. Good prep work is an Enormous task. If I had paid a descent shop to do the tear down and prep work it would was been 4-5x the cost.
I'm realizing that the original color of my truck was a dark green and I'm going to go back to that. So I'm going to do all the disassembly and prep myself, minus the welding. Got a quote on the DJ Jeep and it is basic basic and for them to do it all was quoted as 4k.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 08:14 AM
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You might be surprised as how much stuff you will have to replace once you start taking things apart. It is a good time to replace bolts and the fiddle stuff. If you are going to take everything apart it will be a little harder but you could galvanize the frame if it is in good condition. You will increase the sellability if not price significantly.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 08:34 AM
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When I rebuilt my 110, I also did a color change. The entire body was in individual pieces. I did all of the body work and paint prep, including hanging pieces in the paint booth. The guy who did the painting (prime and color) charged ~2500 including the primer and paint. Frankly, the paint, primer and labor was the cheap part of the job. Good prep work is an Enormous task. If I had paid a descent shop to do the tear down and prep work it would was been 4-5x the cost.
It also depends upon where you live. For paintwork, 100% look for reference examples. I have seen $5k paint jobs with orange peel.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 08:40 AM
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Don't cheap out on a paint job, you will regret it later. The paint might look okay for a couple of years, but after that it will deteriorate quickly in my experience. Its hard to fix a bad paint job.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 09:07 AM
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You might be surprised as how much stuff you will have to replace once you start taking things apart. It is a good time to replace bolts and the fiddle stuff. If you are going to take everything apart it will be a little harder but you could galvanize the frame if it is in good condition. You will increase the sellability if not price significantly.
already had the frame galvanized and upgraded to a hot rodded 4.6 block. Also had rock sliders and an OME suspension installed. In that process all of the frame bolts were evaluated and replaced where necessary. Paint is the next phase. I should have had the paint done at the same time but it didn't work out that way.

My big question is whether I should also galvanize the bulkhead. It's in good shape and there is no rust but I've done so much to this truck and it's turned out so well I could justify it if it was a good long term move.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 09:48 AM
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I would definitely galvanize the bulkhead.
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Sell your truck for what you have into it and put the extra $10k you'd pay to paint it (likely more if done properly/completely) toward buying a nice AA yellow one. Seriously.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 10:23 AM
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Sell your truck for what you have into it and put the extra $10k you'd pay to paint it (likely more if done properly/completely) toward buying a nice AA yellow one. Seriously.
Well said. Don't change the color if your truck. Over time, it will not match the factory paint unless you are paying some serious amount of money to do it correctly. It is not worth the cost.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 10:27 AM
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We can get the vehicle shipped to us, do the necessary work, paint it, and ship it back to you. Send me an email or PM with your details and we'll get it worked out.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 10:38 AM
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Well said. Don't change the color if your truck. Over time, it will not match the factory paint unless you are paying some serious amount of money to do it correctly. It is not worth the cost.
I'll leave it white before selling it. I do prefer AA yellow but it's taken forever to get this one up to where I wanted it and there's no way I'm sorting another 19 year old truck. Not to mention the one I have has a shockingly cherry interior and reasonably low mileage.

You guys haven't scared me off on a color change at this point though.
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I had a NAS 90 in last year that we had resprayed by a local body shop. We lifted the body off the frame, fit it on a D90 dolly we use specifically for this purpose, and proceed to strip the car. We didn't change the color, but the interior paint finish is as good as the exterior.
The paint work alone- rust repairs to the bulkhead, addressing minor stuff along the way, ran about $11k, including $3500 for the paint.
Reassembled with stainless hardware, new door seals, etc.. The project originally started as a frame replacement and grew from there.
Check out British 4x4 Specialists facebook page for pix of the project.
Nice thing about Dan's Auto Body was that they encouraged me to be involved in the project to keep them on track and supplied with parts. Plus, they are only 2 miles from my shop!
Wont deny, the devil's in the details and it will likely cost more than you budget for!
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