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Old December 17th, 2007, 10:20 AM
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What is the "OEM" winch?

I know it was a Warn, but I'm wondering what model winch was the one that LR supplied as an option on the NAS Defenders. I've got an OEM winch cover and I figure I'll just buy an LR winch bumper here in Russia. How's that for a backwards decision-making process?
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Old December 17th, 2007, 10:25 AM
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I believe the ones on the 110 were the M8000 (although I think the M was added to the name sometime since '93).
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Old December 17th, 2007, 10:28 AM
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There were two. One was an M8000 for the behind the bumper winch plate, the other was an XD9000i for the mount in the bumper one. Note, both were NOT the same as the ones available from Warn. The stickers were different and the XD9000i had a couple special features (IIRC a safety hook). I was told they were the professional line or the european lines but I never confirmed either rumor.

edit: the old M8000 is not the same as the new M8000 available now. It was more like the M12000 in design.

edit2: I have a period correct but not from Land rover XD9000i all set up to go into a Defender bumper here.
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Old December 17th, 2007, 10:40 AM
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I believe the covers were only made for the XD9000i. I know on the 110 at least there is no way to have covered the M8000 based on the way it was mounted and I have only ever seen the covers for the XD9000i as I think about it.
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Old December 17th, 2007, 11:18 AM
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Yes, covers are for the XD9000i.
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Old December 17th, 2007, 11:24 AM
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I should have just bought it from you when I bought the truck.
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Old December 17th, 2007, 11:33 AM
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There were two. One was an M8000 for the behind the bumper winch plate, the other was an XD9000i for the mount in the bumper one. Note, both were NOT the same as the ones available from Warn. The stickers were different and the XD9000i had a couple special features (IIRC a safety hook). I was told they were the professional line or the european lines but I never confirmed either rumor.

edit: the old M8000 is not the same as the new M8000 available now. It was more like the M12000 in design.

edit2: I have a period correct but not from Land rover XD9000i all set up to go into a Defender bumper here.
The 9000i was a 'CE' designation. Slightly different motor/wiring/solenoids. I don't remember a safety hook or different wire rope.

I remember shooting a job and while I was walking through the ware house saw a pallet of bumpers with the winches already mounted heading for the UN in Europe to be fitted to a bunch of armored 110's. IIRC they were the 9000 with the non-integrated solenoid pack. I might have an image of that palette somewhere...
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Old December 17th, 2007, 11:47 AM
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Yes, CE. That is correct (at least for the later disco winches). It had a safety hook.

JimC, I guess I could sell that one, but I would be electric winchless then. I have a genuine winch bumper as well.
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Old December 17th, 2007, 11:54 AM
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I used to have a CE version of the 9000i in a multi-mount. I didn't remember that it had a safety hook. Maybe it's because the safety aspect wasn't that noticable. Was the safety hook just an el-cheapo spring loaded flap or was it a true safety hook?
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El cheapo spring loaded thing.
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Jim, my 110 still has what I believe to be the factory winch. When I get home today I can snap a picture and give you the model info if you want it. Mike
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Good information. I am looking for that set up. Let me know if anyone has an OEM winch bumper for sale.
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Old December 17th, 2007, 01:11 PM
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Mike - thanks, I'd like to see a pic.

Ron - I dont want to buy your winch and ship it to Russia.

Shawn - I'm assuming winch bumpers are still available from the dealer here (there are like 5 LR dealers in Moscow). If you want a new-in-box one, just let me know and I'll bring it back from Russia in my household goods.
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You are coming back at some point though . . . .

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Yes, but I want to use it over here
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Oh, what about the 8000 I sold you?

That would work in the interim.
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Bronze Green eh? Yes...I vaguely remember it.

That sticker keeps getting more valuable now doesn't it? :D

Follow-up Post:

Here's the hook. I should have remembered it better...I photographed it for the European catalog.
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Ah ha!

I knew the winch was commercial (CE=commercial electric I bet) and european and had the el cheapo saftey hook.
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For the winch bumper, weren't they made by Warn as well? I remember hearing that somewhere as well. I think the dealer confirmed that as well when I had them powder coat the bumper as part of a claim.
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The Warn one is still available from Warn. I don't know if is OEM, but it looks exactly the same as factory in the picture in the Warn catelog. Part number 69465.

Performance Off-Road has them for $450.00 special price for us.

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