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Old November 14th, 2014, 07:59 AM
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That's not his truck in the pic, that's the truck doing the winching to pull his truck back over.

Here's his truck:

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Love the dog in that pic. Looks like it's pushing too.
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Old November 14th, 2014, 08:06 AM
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Love the dog in that pic. Looks like it's pushing too.
HAHAHAHA I was just about to say the same!
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Old November 14th, 2014, 09:17 AM
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How many guys does it (did it) take to right an D90?!?
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Old November 14th, 2014, 11:37 PM
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How many guys does it (did it) take to right an D90?!?
That depends. Was it RHD to begin with?
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Old November 15th, 2014, 10:03 AM
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Thumbs up Oil Cooler Lines

David,
If you haven't changed your oil cooler lines ever, I highly suggest doing so.
I picked up my D90 over a year ago and every time I took it in for service, I asked them to check my lines.... They always said my lines were fine so I just assumed I was fine.

2 weeks ago, driving down the road w my girl and dog, I smell burning rubber and see a huge cloud of smoke coming out from behind my 90. I was able to pull over immediately to see a small fire on the right side Cat and was able to put it out before it it spread to the engine bay and total my 90. The whole situation only took a minute or less but it could have been so much worse.

I asked the mechanics to see the damaged lines and it was only a small pinhole, but that was enough to almost torch my 90

I also live in your area so you are welcome to come check out my oil cooler lines anytime.
I ended up going w some custom stainless steel lines that are very similar to the trailhead set up.

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Old November 15th, 2014, 11:30 AM
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Your very lucky, glad to hear no major damage...

I also carry a fire extinguisher in my truck just in case...
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Old November 15th, 2014, 12:15 PM
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Great advice Grover.
It went on my Christmas list before AAA even got to the scene!
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Old November 15th, 2014, 12:20 PM
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So I talked to tail head and ordered some lines to replace the old invisible oil lines that don't exist on my defender ;-) and as I have smelt some burning from under my hood and there is plenty of oil leaking it's a good thing I'm ignorant.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 12:29 PM
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David, If you haven't changed your oil cooler lines ever, I highly suggest doing so. I picked up my D90 over a year ago and every time I took it in for service, I asked them to check my lines.... They always said my lines were fine so I just assumed I was fine. 2 weeks ago, driving down the road w my girl and dog, I smell burning rubber and see a huge cloud of smoke coming out from behind my 90. I was able to pull over immediately to see a small fire on the right side Cat and was able to put it out before it it spread to the engine bay and total my 90. The whole situation only took a minute or less but it could have been so much worse. I asked the mechanics to see the damaged lines and it was only a small pinhole, but that was enough to almost torch my 90 I also live in your area so you are welcome to come check out my oil cooler lines anytime. I ended up going w some custom stainless steel lines that are very similar to the trailhead set up. Mike
you should name and shame the shop.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 12:38 PM
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I'm in total shock that with these vehicles at 20 years old still have trucks out there with original oil cooler lines. But yes, generally it develops a pinhole leak and sprays on the passenger side manifold...that's all it takes for a Car-B-Q on these things.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 01:09 PM
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I'm in total shock that with these vehicles at 20 years old still have trucks out there with original oil cooler lines. But yes, generally it develops a pinhole leak and sprays on the passenger side manifold...that's all it takes for a Car-B-Q on these things.
<sarcasm>I'm in total shock that a shop was repeatedly asked to check something and didn't do a proper job ...</sarcasm>
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Old November 15th, 2014, 02:13 PM
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you should name and shame the shop.
Pin holes can occur at anytime in an aging line...I wouldn't fault the shop unnecessarily. It's an owner decision what type of component/condition is allowed to exist.

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I'm in total shock that with these vehicles at 20 years old still have trucks out there with original oil cooler lines. But yes, generally it develops a pinhole leak and sprays on the passenger side manifold...that's all it takes for a Car-B-Q on these things.
Hey now...
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Old November 15th, 2014, 02:27 PM
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Dave if yours doesnt have the lines currently then I think it must also be missing the "sandwich plate" that sends oil from the filter to the cooler and takes it back..

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Old November 15th, 2014, 04:14 PM
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Nope. Mine has them (and oils oozing out of them all over). I've just been enjoy playing ignorant after realizing I was wrong in the first place...lol.

Going to get an extinguisher later today. Figures I'd check Frys and Walmart for a BC. Any arguments on spending more then $30 if it's only a temp extinguisher?
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Old November 15th, 2014, 06:18 PM
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Pin holes can occur at anytime in an aging line...I wouldn't fault the shop unnecessarily. It's an owner decision what type of component/condition is allowed to exist. ------ Follow up post added November 15th, 2014 01:13 PM ------ Hey now...
Every time he took it in to check ... He asked them to check ... I wonder what they checked?

Maybe they thought it was ok ... Maybe they'll think the same on the next truck that they are asked to check. I know it won't be my truck but it could be someone reading this.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 06:46 PM
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Every time he took it in to check ... He asked them to check ... I wonder what they checked?

Maybe they thought it was ok ... Maybe they'll think the same on the next truck that they are asked to check. I know it won't be my truck but it could be someone reading this.
If I didn't know about the oil cooler line fires I would check for leaks. No one makes a big deal about oil cooler lines or transmission lines on any other Land Rovers. Its unreasonable to expect a shop to know about the oil cooler line fires unless they specialise in Defenders.
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Old November 15th, 2014, 07:23 PM
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I'm not upset w the shop(s) because when I asked them, at the time I guess they were fine. I had been lead to believe that the issue wasn't as widespread as the forum posts but now I know differently. I have a lot of records that came w my 90 but nothing about oil cooler lines so I have no idea when they were last replaced before the incident.
The pin hole occurred about 100 miles after a major service so it's just unlucky. I'm grateful that the fire wasn't more severe. Both shops gave me the option for OEM and Stainless and neither shop pushed one over the other. I did specifically ask one of the shops about plugging the holes and they said they had no interest in doing that.
I opted to go with a Stainless Steel kit and will monitor them going forward.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 01:12 AM
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So just an update- hope you enjoy my luck- so everything showed up in time for installation. Although shipping was a big issue, installing the Trail Head lines I got a bad line that leaks. Eric was very helpful. Turns out that with all lines he has made I get the third ever to leak. LMAO! I have great luck! So I will hit the trail this weekend without an oil cooler.

Thank you to everyone that helped prevent my Defender BBQ.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 03:38 AM
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well.. there you go.. no oil cooler lines to leak, no roasted rover

Hope you have fun on Frank's trip this weekend. Been trying to go on the Death Valley trip for a couple of years now but every time something comes up and I haven't been able to go.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:50 AM
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There are two relays on the same part number for the fuel and ecu. I got my spares (Bosch) from KOI auto for a fraction of the genuine price.
As for the relays, I see Rover's North had two different parts. One for multiple applications, and then the fuel pump.
Pump:
http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/AFU2913OE

Other:
http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/YWB10027L

So do I want two of the multi and one for the pump, or are you saying that they are really the same and just to get two of which ever?
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