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Old December 9th, 2003, 12:59 AM
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Waxoyl?

What's the deal with this stuff? I'm moving up the northeast from florida, what should I do to prepare my rig for the salt, etc. on the roads? How hard is it to apply, what sort of preparation before application, where best to get it, any better/competing products, etc. ?

thanks in advance...
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Old December 9th, 2003, 01:39 AM
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Basically it is a under-body treatment for your truck.

"It is a thick waxy fluid, saturated with a very powerful rustkiller,
Waxoyl chases out moisture to form a flexible weatherproof
skin that won't crack, dry or wash off in the rain."

That's the best description I've come across. Just pressure washed my undercarriage as best I could. I wire brushed the surface rust and then applied. Be careful as the stuff is messy and toxic, kinda reminded me of aerosol tar.

I've had good results with it. Keeps the underside a nice flat black too. It is pricey, especially from RN. There are plenty of competing products. I think 3-M makes a nice one...

FWIW, I am saving up for a Galv. frame to solve the problem long term.
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Old December 9th, 2003, 02:15 AM
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Dave, Have you seen this thread?

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...=&threadid=503

We were just talking about that...

Waxoyl is about $16/can. The info about Ospho is pretty interesting. Since you've got plenty of boats down in FLA, there might be lots of sources for it there.
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Old December 9th, 2003, 10:38 AM
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thanks for the re-route Ken, I should have found that thread first. Interesting info. lots of options I guess. I want to protect my frame now that it's still in pretty good shape.
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What the rough cost on having a frame galvanized anyway? It does seem to be the 'real' long term solution...
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Old December 9th, 2003, 11:34 AM
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5 years is optimistic for waxoyl on an off road vehicle. It is great stuff but messy to apply and ideally for an off roader I reckon should be redone every year. I've got tons in my garage just too lazy (and you have to apply in warm temps which we don't exactly have right now.....
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Dave, ECR quoted me $6800 for a galvanized frame swap.
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Old December 11th, 2003, 01:27 PM
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Underside prep is a joy. I went hunting for Ospho can could not find it easily. Only one shop (Marine) and a 4 week delivery time. In CA, approc $40.00 a gallon though Ospho home page will sell it at $100 for a case (4 gallon cans I think?).
One thing with Ospho - EVERYONE who knew of it recommended a 4 part process.
1) strip (as best you can) and sand
2) apply Ospho
3) apply primer
4) apply top coat.
I ended up with an Ospho clone RUST DESTROYER, see www.rust.com found at my Home Depot. My thought is for small stuff you can reach and see, Go with Ospho or equal. If you want to all out, Waxoyl is the way. Time + undercar access + degree of need = selection
Dave, let me add, my D-90 came from Mass and you can tell it. Looked OK in my ex home state of NJ, but here in CA ...Ouch!
I am really rust conscience now.
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Old December 11th, 2003, 01:59 PM
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waxoyl starter kit

FYI - I just ordered the Waxoly Starter Kit, which comes with a pump to make applying it easier, from this guy here:

http://www.propermg.com/waxoyl.htm

It was the only place on the web where I could find the kit. Price seems reasonable, but shipping was $15. D'oh.

He said one starter kit should cover the entire undercarriage of the D90, so that's good enough for me for now to get through this winter.
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Old December 12th, 2003, 03:59 PM
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Best applied with an air compressor attachment for underseal.
Really squirt in on, especially on the insides of the chassis rails. Some sort of pressure washing drain cleaner attachment passed up the inside of the chassis rails first to get any mud out is ideal if the sort of offroading you do includes deep mud>try and let the chassis dry out afterwards then apply (some hope in GB at the moment). It can be thinned down with white spirit to make application easier in cold weather.
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Old December 12th, 2003, 05:00 PM
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Up here JE Robison will do Waxoyl for $549. They get everything according to their website. I know it is a good place.
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Old December 12th, 2003, 07:19 PM
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I had both vehicles done at JE Robison in July.The process cost me about $380 per vehicle.I'm very satisfied with the result, I had no visible rust on the vehicles when the waxoyl was applied and will probably be getting a fresh coat in 2005.
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