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Old November 30th, 2007, 05:17 PM
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The port installed optional winch package for the NAS 110 used a Warn M8000 but most people felt that it was inadequate for the vehicle and people who used them a lot burned them up. Supposedly the minimum rated winch should be 1.5x the GVW according to this site.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 06:22 PM
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oh yeah, definitely too small for a 110.

I was talking about a 90.

then again, you want your winch to be big enough to pull everyone else's truck out as well...


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The port installed optional winch package for the NAS 110 used a Warn M8000 but most people felt that it was inadequate for the vehicle and people who used them a lot burned them up. Supposedly the minimum rated winch should be 1.5x the GVW according to this site.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 07:12 PM
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The 90 isn't all that much lighter weight though is it?
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Old November 30th, 2007, 09:36 PM
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I dunno. Seems like it would be quite a bit lighter than a 110. But I agree it is a little on the light side. But I don't plan on bolting a bunch of heavy stuff to the truck either, rather keep it in "fighting trim."

Secretly I want an 8274. I have the old 5687 version of that and it will pull the 109 loaded for bear without much complaint. Power out would be nice though.

Truthfully I have no experience with the Warn 8000 but I suspect it would work for most situations. OTOH it only has to *not* work once...



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The 90 isn't all that much lighter weight though is it?
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 09:17 PM
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how's the 110?
Awesome! I took her off road this weekend at Gore. She did awesome on the trails, and besides a few minor problems was trouble free. It was my first time wheeling with stick shift in the looong time, and I really liked it - feels like you have more control. She is geared better than my D90 (right now) though.

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Old Post- But sorry I didn't reply

Hey Guys,
Just found this post again and didn't relized what i started, I still haven't found out if the winch works. I have so many other things to fix.
sorry I didn't reply.
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1993 NAS D110;
Curb Weight: 4840 lbs. Gross Weight: 6504 lbs.

1995 NAS D90 SW;
Curb Weight: 3560 lbs. Gross Weight: 6003 lbs.

1997 NAS D90 ST;
Curb Weight: 3913 lbs. Gross Weight: 6001 lbs.

Yeah, I don't know how the ST weighs more than the SW.. but after searching, that was the information printed everywhere..
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Any figures for ROW trucks? I don't want a NAS 90. Well I do but I don't have the dosh.


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1993 NAS D110;
Curb Weight: 4840 lbs. Gross Weight: 6504 lbs.

1995 NAS D90 SW;
Curb Weight: 3560 lbs. Gross Weight: 6003 lbs.

1997 NAS D90 ST;
Curb Weight: 3913 lbs. Gross Weight: 6001 lbs.

Yeah, I don't know how the ST weighs more than the SW.. but after searching, that was the information printed everywhere..
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1993 NAS D110;
Curb Weight: 4840 lbs. Gross Weight: 6504 lbs.

1995 NAS D90 SW;
Curb Weight: 3560 lbs. Gross Weight: 6003 lbs.

1997 NAS D90 ST;
Curb Weight: 3913 lbs. Gross Weight: 6001 lbs.

Yeah, I don't know how the ST weighs more than the SW.. but after searching, that was the information printed everywhere..
As mentioned in another thread, those numbers are real world low. And an 8,000 will not handle a D90. I managed to max out my 9,500 pulling a Sami with 33's! I ended up ripping of his front bumper and one side of his front axle. When a trucks gets bound up, it can draw massive force. You could probably manage to get by if you snatch blocked everything, but it's better to get the right winch up front.
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Any figures for ROW trucks? I don't want a NAS 90. Well I do but I don't have the dosh.
You're lucky I had a brochure still open!

Pickup:
Curb: 3902lbs. Gross: 5291lbs

Hard Top:
C: 4001lbs. G: 5291lbs

Station Wagon:
C: 4122lbs. G: 5621lbs

Those were from a 2003 publication.. not sure how much the weight varied between years..
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I ran Janey (ROW) over the scales at the dump, and they weighed me in a 4780lbs iirc, mostly empty (other than me @ ~220). Don't recall how much gas I had - say a half tank.

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Buck, forgive me if it is obvious but at what point during the part ripping apart half of someone's vehicle is the winch considered maxed out?



In all seriousness it sounds like a stronger winch would have just ripped off the bumper that much faster.

Thanks Ryan. Didn't realize the little 90's were that heavy. You guys are probably right the 8000 is a bit light. Though my old Warn 5687 is rated for 8000 and it will pull down a house. Like the 8274 it is percieved to be capable of pulling quite a bit more than 8k.


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As mentioned in another thread, those numbers are real world low. And an 8,000 will not handle a D90. I managed to max out my 9,500 pulling a Sami with 33's! I ended up ripping of his front bumper and one side of his front axle. When a trucks gets bound up, it can draw massive force. You could probably manage to get by if you snatch blocked everything, but it's better to get the right winch up front.
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I personally wouldn't have a problem with having a 8000 on my 90 for self recovery, or recovery of other 90s or Jeeps.. I have a 9000 on my D2 which is usually fully loaded down, and have been able to get out of almost everything. I'd definitely rather have an 8000lb winch than nothing...
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I have an older Ramsey 8k on mine and it worked great pulling a bunch of trucks up some ledges at the National Rally last year. 8k is plenty big enough for a D90 in most applications IMO.
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Buck, forgive me if it is obvious but at what point during the part ripping apart half of someone's vehicle is the winch considered maxed out?



In all seriousness it sounds like a stronger winch would have just ripped off the bumper that much faster.
It was a sammy, a winch should be able to rip it in half.

Joking aside, the story was meant to show how even a very light rig can get jammed up to the point of almost taking down a 9,500. Step up and get the better winch. There are some good cheap options out there.
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