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Old March 8th, 2012, 09:56 AM
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VNT Turbo kit for 300Tdi.....Worth it?

I'm looking to get a little more torque and low end out of my 300Tdi. I know a few people have installed this kit in the past. I'm just wondering if it's worth the money for the performance gain.

I talked to a local diesel/turbo shop, and they said my turbo is probably in need of a rebuild or replacement anyway. I'm looking at about $700 for a turbo only, or $2200 shipped for a VNT kit with all new hoses, exhaust manifold, etc. So for an extra $1500, are the gains worth the money?

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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:59 AM
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Check this thread

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Old March 8th, 2012, 11:09 AM
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yes. I saw that thread. I tried emailing Ian with IRB and no response. I've emailed him a few times. Seems like the OP from that thread has had about the same amount of luck.

I've been in contact with David Jackson from M&D in the UK. When I did my conversion, David was helpful and prompt. If I have a problem, I know he will work with me to fix it. Ian probably not so much.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 11:31 AM
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Old March 8th, 2012, 02:03 PM
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Ian is good, but like you've discovered, a PITA to get hold of sometimes... I class him as a mate (eventhough I don't see him that regularly) and he's still hard to get hold of sometimes.


I have one of his VNT turbos on my Td5... makes it much more drivable. no "extra" torque (Well, excluding the ECU remap that is) but just more torque lower down the rev range.

Deffo a good conversion.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 09:44 PM
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The M&D conversion is well worth while. I have not bothered with adjusting the fueling yet but right off it makes the 300tdi more tractable. Useful off-road and also city driving. On a local hill I used to take it in 2nd, now it will hold 3rd.
Kit contains everything you need and fitting straightforwad. A bit fiddly around the alternator due to proximity of piping.
Fit an exhaust pyrometer while you are at it. There is no EGR or blanking plate on the new manifold so you do not want to rip everything out again afterwards.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:10 PM
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Fit an exhaust pyrometer while you are at it. There is no EGR or blanking plate on the new manifold so you do not want to rip everything out again afterwards.
What he said!
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:32 PM
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Matthew, thanks for the link. Good info.

Jamie, good to know. Maybe next time you get a chance to talk to Ian let him know it's hard to give him money if he doesn't answer.....

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The M&D conversion is well worth while. I have not bothered with adjusting the fueling yet but right off it makes the 300tdi more tractable. Useful off-road and also city driving.
Right on. Good to hear the M&D conversion worked well. Did you do the install yourself ? How long did it take you?
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Any experiences with the Bell turbo? Is it a direct replacement for the stock one?
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I love mine
I will let you know in about 2 weeks how mine is. Just ordered a kit from M&D.
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Considering ordering a kit. Who is the preferred vendor to order from?
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My kit will be here on Wednesday. Any hot tips on how to install? How do you guys like it? I have an EGT gauge and sender to install as well. Where do I put the sender?
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My kit will be here on Wednesday. Any hot tips on how to install? How do you guys like it? I have an EGT gauge and sender to install as well. Where do I put the sender?
Follow the instructions and take your time.

I installed the EGT sender in the exhaust manifold. Drilled a hole and tapped it.

The VNT turbo woke my truck up. It's a different beast now. Highly recommended. Not inexpensive, But not s lot more than a standard turbo replacement.
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My kit will be here on Wednesday. Any hot tips on how to install? How do you guys like it? I have an EGT gauge and sender to install as well. Where do I put the sender?
Where did you get it from?
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Can anyone snap a pic of where you installed the sender (if you have one).

Thanks!

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Follow the instructions and take your time.

I installed the EGT sender in the exhaust manifold. Drilled a hole and tapped it.

The VNT turbo woke my truck up. It's a different beast now. Highly recommended. Not inexpensive, But not s lot more than a standard turbo replacement.
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Keith @ Rovertracks. I snagged the last kit I believe.

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Where did you get it from?
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Where did you get it from?
They are available from a few UK suppliers as well:

http://www.allisport.com/index.php?o...id=170&lang=en


http://www.allardturbosport.co.uk/in...ry-200-300-TDI

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300-Tdi-VN...-/170332644467
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I was about to tap a hole in the manifold today when I realized I may need 1 1/2" of clearance above the new manifold for the EGT Sender which sticks out about the same amount. I was wondering if anyone who has installed the M&D Engineering VNT Kit on their 300tdi could tell me if there is any interference with parts above the manifold? Perhaps you can snap a picture? I plan to pre-assemble the parts just to make sure there isn't a hose or something located right on top of the manifold but pictures would help.
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Why not just tap a hole/weld a nut, onto the blanking plate where the EGR valve would normally live.
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