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Old January 1st, 2013, 07:39 AM
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Can't. The M&D Kit comes with the 2.8 manifold which doesn't have a blanking plate.
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300 tdi vnt

I built my own vnt manifold mounting kit and used a garrett gt 22 turbo. Just for fun.
attached a picture of the engine in the vehicle.

It would blast past friends 200 tdi and 3.9 v8 on the highway but it was still an expensive project. You need a boost gauge and pyrometer!!!!

I still have the turbo and mount center section. I think there is a better turbo for this application and my center section could be adapted to use a different turbo.?
Casting a center section was a very expensive proposition so I machined one.
I believe Bell in the U.K. has a new direct fit vnt for the 300. question is $2200 for 30 or 40 ft lbs of torque worth it.
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I built my own vnt manifold mounting kit and used a garrett gt 22 turbo. Just for fun.
attached a picture of the engine in the vehicle.

It would blast past friends 200 tdi and 3.9 v8 on the highway but it was still an expensive project. You need a boost gauge and pyrometer!!!!

I still have the turbo and mount center section. I think there is a better turbo for this application and my center section could be adapted to use a different turbo.?
Casting a center section was a very expensive proposition so I machined one.
I believe Bell in the U.K. has a new direct fit vnt for the 300. question is $2200 for 30 or 40 ft lbs of torque worth it.

That's bad ass !
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Can't. The M&D Kit comes with the 2.8 manifold which doesn't have a blanking plate.


Ah OK, didn't know they didn't have the blanking plate.
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It is still cheaper than a 2.8 Powerstroke or 4JB1T conversion I may go with one of the other UK setups from Allisport or Allard.
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best thing about a 2.8 is no oil cooler.
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Casting a center section was a very expensive proposition so I machined one.
Wow, I woulda just welded up a mani from pipe elbows.
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best thing about a 2.8 is no oil cooler.
And the worst thing is the $8000 price tag
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I am talking to a JDM engine supplier that has a 4JB1T, he has one advertised at $2100.
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Wow, I woulda just welded up a mani from pipe elbows.[/QUOTE]


I was quoted $4000 to make a mold to cast a center section to keep the turbo in the stock location. I am not fond of the 2.8 set up as it spins the turbo around and adds a lot of intake plumbing. I was planning on producing this as a kit but the cost was just out of sight and finding a VNT turbo after market proved to be impossible, most VNT are found OEM.

I thought about the welding and I could not get everything in that tight a space with elbows that would take the heat.

Gotta have crazy projects from time to time.
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Jeep put a VM 2.8 diesel in their '05-06 Liberty's that have a VNT attached to them. They are mounted on the right side of the engine but maybe the plumbing could work out to be on the left side of the 300Tdi.
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I spoke to the JDM engine supplier, he has six 4JB1T's inbound in about six weeks. 2 are spoken for, I have asked him about cost, mileage, and what if any guarantee he offers.

This may be a cost effective alternative to an International 2.8 or a VNT turbo upgrade.
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I spoke to the JDM engine supplier, he has six 4JB1T's inbound in about six weeks. 2 are spoken for, I have asked him about cost, mileage, and what if any guarantee he offers.

This may be a cost effective alternative to an International 2.8 or a VNT turbo upgrade.

Arent the power numbers on these things super low?

I thought they made like 60HP and 150 Ftlbs
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These engine are can be easily tuned to increase power and torque dramatically. They are very tough little engine.

Just received an email from Allisport, there VNT turbo is 890GBP, asked for more info about fitment.



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Arent the power numbers on these things super low?

I thought they made like 60HP and 150 Ftlbs
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Anyone fit one of these on a 200 or a 300?

Looking for some thoughts
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I have installed several. PM me if interested in one. I have them coming in with orders.
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VNT turbo install

I installed the Allisport VNT turbo kit on my 300 tdi and it makes a world of difference both for everyday driving and on the highway. Still drop to 90 on the bigger hills but EGT's are down about 90 deg C from stock doing 120 km/h on the highway.Took about 2 days for me to install and all part came with the kit - direct replacement for the stock turbo just had to reuse the old horns on the manifold. I just drileld a hole in their manifold for my EGT but when I talked to Andrew at Allisport he mentioned they may not have that option on newer kits as they may not have the cavity and EGR blanking area on the new manifolds.

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I installed the Allisport VNT turbo kit on my 300 tdi and it makes a world of difference both for everyday driving and on the highway. Still drop to 90 on the bigger hills but EGT's are down about 90 deg C from stock doing 120 km/h on the highway.Took about 2 days for me to install and all part came with the kit - direct replacement for the stock turbo just had to reuse the old horns on the manifold. I just drileld a hole in their manifold for my EGT but when I talked to Andrew at Allisport he mentioned they may not have that option on newer kits as they may not have the cavity and EGR blanking area on the new manifolds.

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For reference, what size tires are you running, what diff gears are you running and are you still running the 1.4 TCase?

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I installed the Allisport VNT turbo kit on my 300 tdi and it makes a world of difference both for everyday driving and on the highway. Still drop to 90 on the bigger hills but EGT's are down about 90 deg C from stock doing 120 km/h on the highway.Took about 2 days for me to install and all part came with the kit - direct replacement for the stock turbo just had to reuse the old horns on the manifold. I just drileld a hole in their manifold for my EGT but when I talked to Andrew at Allisport he mentioned they may not have that option on newer kits as they may not have the cavity and EGR blanking area on the new manifolds.

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