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Old July 21st, 2011, 08:22 AM
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Has to be someone near there with a belt, I would gladly ship you one of mine.
Was that a new belt that went or the one on prior to all of the overheating?
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Old July 21st, 2011, 09:00 AM
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if you still have the old one, take it in to napa or other auto shop. the should be able to match it up by length, width, ribs.

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Old July 21st, 2011, 09:21 AM
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I have a new spare that I can send to you or you can pick up if you prefer. Send me a PM.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 01:29 PM
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Sorry to hear this. So these are non-interference engines then? No damage can result from losing the timing belt?
No not the timing belt, the fan/alternator belt.
Broken timing belt = valves hitting pistons = bent pushrods and snapped valve rockers

Serpentine belt breaking = no water pump, fan = overheating.... Oh they've just been to that place, good call on towing.
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Old July 21st, 2011, 01:34 PM
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Whoops I completely missed that it was the serp belt. Makes much more sense now
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Old July 21st, 2011, 01:37 PM
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Whoops I completely missed that it was the serp belt. Makes much more sense now
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Old July 21st, 2011, 05:34 PM
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Tdi guys: you should always carry a spare 7PK1575 (or1580) belt (even a used one would do it) and a 7PK1420 (or 1425) to use in case of a broken alternator or PS pump. With the "short" belt you can skip any of them and still have all the rest, most important being water pump. To skip PS pump you have to remove the pulley from it and tie hoses very well for the belt not to scrape on any of them. For a stuck alternator just put the short one and keep going, 1 minute with the right tool and won´t let you thrown in the middle of nowhere.

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Old July 21st, 2011, 05:54 PM
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Neil, you may want to look into why that belt snapped especially since it was new.
Did any of the pulleys come off recently?

If you need a belt I have one, but you are out of my neck of the woods.... buy at least 2!
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 02:45 AM
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Well we are in Seattle safe and sound!!!


More to follow in the morning....
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 02:53 AM
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 08:38 AM
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Welcome to Seattle! Looks like you brought some good weather and hopefully TWO Rovers. Looking forward to the update. Cheers.
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 01:22 PM
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 07:42 PM
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 08:01 PM
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Awesome!
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 10:58 PM
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 11:22 PM
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Old July 24th, 2011, 10:53 PM
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OK everyone… we have a few minutes of downtime here in Ketchikan, so i thought I would write a update.

YES… we made the ferry! Certainly not without a struggle. After we picked up the Glow Plug from Steve, we had assembled the engine and waited until the morning to try and start it. We got up the next morning, did the valve clearance adjustment, changed the oil, and with a great deal of hesitation cranked the engine.

She started right up without even a slight hint of hesitation.

We drove around San Jose for a bit to see if the overheating problem had been solved, and we couldn't get the engine above 190. Thinking we had everything fixed, we threw all our gear into the trucks and headed out.

About 20-30 miles into the trip north we started hitting the Mission Peak hills in the bay area, and I noticed the engine was getting warm. We pressed on for a few more miles, watching the needle head hotter, and feeling that sinking "oh shit" feeling in my stomach. We pulled over in Sunol to check out what was going on.

When we popped the hood, we noticed that the cooling fan was not running… but the radiator was too hot to touch, as were both the top and bottom hoses. So we knew that we had coolant flowing, and that the radiator wasn't blocked. So, we figured some of you were right and that the temperature switch for the fan wasn't working right.

We "hot-wired" the sensor so that the fan ran all the time, started the truck and the temp started dropping quickly. YEAH! We said. We took back off, and started making good time up the 5 with no other issues.

Once we hit Oregon things were still smooth sailing. Since we were going to see family in Corvallis for the night we split off of 5 in Eugene and took the back roads (Oregon Hwy 99) to get to Corvallis. About 20 miles south of our destination I hear a large bang and the alternator light comes on. I notice I had also lost power steering, so I knew it was the serpentine belt.

I was going to just keep going after "load shedding" extra power items since the Tdi is all mechanical, it only needs voltage to hold the fuel solenoid open, until Josh reminded me on the radio that the water pump was on the same belt drive. BUMMER!

I pull over, we open the hood and confirm it's the serpentine belt. It got chewed up pretty good. We hook up the tow strap to Josh's 90 and we take off at 30 MPH the last few miles to Corvallis. We get there at about 12:30 in the morning, so when we get there we just do a cursory look at the truck, mainly ensuring that the pulleys all look OK and everything still turned. We went inside, drank some beer, and called it a night.

The next morning we go back out to the truck and notice that the bolt used to hold the tensioner assembly to the block was missing. That was the cause of the belt failure, and we were glad we found it. We look on Microcat and see it's a M10 flange nut, and we took the advice of you guys here and decided to go to Napa to see if they had a belt that would work. We lucked out and the Napa was large, and the staff was very knowledgeable. They found a 6 rib belt of the exact length, whereas the factory belt was 7 rib. We took the belt, found a hardware store that had the M10 nut, and headed back to the truck.

We start to put everything back together, and I notice that the nut on the tensioner is just turning, and not getting tighter. Looking closer, it turns out that the stud stripped out the threads on the engine where they go in (the timing belt cover if I remember right). Both Josh and I just throw down the tools and I won't lie I felt like crying. After a few minutes of agony, we decided to JB weld the stud back in to place and bolt on the tensioner. It holds, and we get on our way.

More to come…..
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Old July 24th, 2011, 11:07 PM
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Wow! I wish I could help somehow.

I applaud your perseverance. If it's any consolation I think we are all learning how to trouble-shoot from all this and "real world" experiences.

Keep going!
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Old July 25th, 2011, 08:14 AM
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That's a helluva shakedown cruise so far!
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