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Old March 21st, 2016, 08:31 AM
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UPS Shipping Strikes Again

Just based on the picture attached, is this radiator still ok to use as is? I bought this used Ron Davis radiator from a defender source member (colorover). Looks like it received some damages during shipping.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 10:03 AM
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Looks fine from here, probably just a bunch of bent fins. It should be pretty obvious if you have a cracked tube or end tank. Radiator shop could check it for next to nothing.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 10:10 AM
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Old March 21st, 2016, 01:42 PM
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How do you pressure test the radiator when not installed? Same tools just block some of the other ports? Apologies for the noob question.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 01:47 PM
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How do you pressure test the radiator when not installed? Same tools just block some of the other ports? Apologies for the noob question.
A radiator shop has plugs they install and pressurize it while submersed and check for bubbles.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 01:48 PM
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A radiator shop has plugs they install and pressurize it while submersed and check for bubbles.
We did it ghetto style compared to this...


A shop will charge $100 for the test. (at least here in NoVA)
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Old March 21st, 2016, 02:24 PM
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You can also straighten the fins very carefully with a toothpick.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 02:31 PM
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You can also straighten the fins very carefully with a toothpick.
There's a tool for that too... It's a radiator fin comb straightener. It's about $6. (P20 discount)

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------ Follow up post added March 21st, 2016 02:35 PM ------

Also... Advance Auto Parts will rent this for free...

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Old March 21st, 2016, 02:46 PM
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The problem I see in the photo is there is a bent tube, not just fins.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 03:16 PM
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We did it ghetto style compared to this... A shop will charge $100 for the test. (at least here in NoVA)
$100 !!!😦
Holy cow! I know places where I can get that done free. But then the last time I had a radiator checked was about 10 years ago.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 03:28 PM
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$100 !!!��
Holy cow! I know places where I can get that done free. But then the last time I had a radiator checked was about 10 years ago.
This is NoVA... Nothing is free.

Tony can probably help me out here... This was a while back.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 03:39 PM
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Who is Ron Davis ? A radiator shop ?
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Old March 21st, 2016, 03:44 PM
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Dolphin repaired and tested mine for only $85

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This is NoVA... Nothing is free.

Tony can probably help me out here... This was a while back.
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Ron Davis aluminum radiators for racing, offroad, performance street car, and other custom applications


That's what Mike put in the 88 when he built it. Still going strong.
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 10:12 AM
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I contacted Bill at Ron Davis Radiator. He said everything is welded together in their radiators; unlike the old soldered brass/copper radiators. It would be more expensive to repair than replace with new.

However, I filed a claim with UPS and they picked it up for inspection yesterday. UPS concluded item was not packed properly and shipped it back to Colorover. They did not give me a chance to keep it. Brendon gave me a refund minus the Paypal fees.

That begs the question, "Do I want a radiator that cannot be repaired?" I think I'm done buying from the forums for a while as well.
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 10:27 AM
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Glad you got your $ back.
IMO, the vast majority of "shipping" damage is due to inadequate packaging. Not implying that here, but good that this vendor honored the responsibility of delivering the product to the purchaser damage free. Many wipe their hands of the issue.
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 10:40 AM
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I think I'm done buying from the forums for a while as well.
Seems like a fairly positive (and quickly resolved) situation, so I'm not sure where you're going there. Shipping companies will never take responsibility for what they do, and even when they do admit fault it's usually still back on the shipper/receiver because adequate insurance was not purchased, etc. etc. etc. I've had stuff that I'd kept the original Styrofoam packaging to, paid for special handling, and have even had the store write DO NOT BEND all around it, and it's still shown up with all of the Styrofoam cracked all the way through and bent to shit. The shipping company still never admitted any fault and wouldn't even refund the shipping costs (let alone the value of the product!).
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 10:52 AM
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UPS will never accept fault for anything. Damage, shipping to the wrong place, delivery late... It is always someone else's fault.
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 11:01 AM
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Dolphin repaired and tested mine for only $85
Tony charged me $100...
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 11:03 AM
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UPS will never accept fault for anything. Damage, shipping to the wrong place, delivery late... It is always someone else's fault.
Our experience as well. Gets old fast with 100+/- shipments a week...

After my last blowup with UPS over damage we dropped them completely. As a result of switching carriers our shipping costs have gone up slightly - every package is insured as well - but our damage claims have dropped to less than .5%

Now if only we could get USPS to stop losing boxes...
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