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Old August 28th, 2014, 09:18 PM
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Until I swap engines to an EFI...

I am looking for a shop in the Orange County/Los Angeles area that can rebuild my carbs without breaking the bank (V8 3.5L).

I am aware of the database on this forum that lists all the shops in my area, but am rather looking for a personal recommendation based on 1st hand experience.
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Petes Marina motors in Venice…Not cheap but straight and honest and done right the first time. Also Four Oaks in Santa Monica. Used them both for years with multiple different rovers. Petes better with the old stuff 4 oaks for the new stuff.
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Rather than swapping out to EFI why not swap to a new manifold and carb?
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Rather than swapping out to EFI why not swap to a new manifold and carb?
I already suggested that in his other thread. Likely cheaper overall and better performance.
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I like my 3.5 with Edelbrock. But I have always wondered if I was starting from scratch and (for what ever reason) decided that I must have EFI....

Would it be cheaper / easier to mod the side draft carb 3.5 with an EFI system or cheaper/easier to do a full swap with a 3.9 from a junkyard disco. I do not know the answer .... it is just one of those thread distracting thoughts I have sometimes.....
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and less complicated to swap out the carb and mani VS EFI. And you could get it serviced pretty much anywhere... that carb is used all over the place you could even take it into Taco Bell and have it rebuilt it is so common
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I already suggested that in his other thread. Likely cheaper overall and better performance.
I am planning a complete engine swap with a 3.9L EFI which I've already sourced from Chip on this board (out of his '94 D90), but until then (maybe a year down the road), I was hoping to get the current engine running better and more reliably.

I am not entirely certain that the carbs are the culprits, but 3 issues seem to point in that direction:

1) Hesitation upon take off from idle after the engine has reached normal operating temperatures
2) Engine idle is high after the truck has been driven awhile, especially in hot weather
3) Sudden decrease in power during normal driving which adjusts itself back to normal, again though in hot weather conditions.

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and less complicated to swap out the carb and mani VS EFI. And you could get it serviced pretty much anywhere... that carb is used all over the place you could even take it into Taco Bell and have it rebuilt it is so common
I wish I could share your enthusiasm, but unless I'm not looking in the right places, I cannot find a local mechanic that can look at those cars for me, and keep in mind that I'm in Southern California, "the Mecca of automobiles"

I can't even find a British Car (MG, Rover, Jag) mechanic anymore, and the couple of places I found don't work on carbs anymore.
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Seriously?! you've gone to see Peter and he won't work on an english car with carbs? nonsense. Sensing a pattern here. You ask the membership for their advice and once given to you its ignored….

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Calm down there buddy! I never said I went to visit Peter and he won't work on English cars. You provided the link 15 hours ago and I haven't had the chance to go to his shop yet, as he is about an hour away from me (I'm in Irvine). As a matter of fact I called his shop this morning and got an answering machine, and also called Four Oaks, and his shop is closed until Tuesday.

I was simply making an observation about shops in Orange County where I live, besides I did say: "unless I'm not looking in the right places", so get off your high horse there. No pattern of anything here!
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Im calm tough guy.. apologies for trying to help you. disregard my post.. take your truck to the dealership.
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Again not being a tough guy or anything, and I appreciate all the help you and this board have provided so far, but you're the one who's assuming that there is a pattern her, and that I'm refusing the help or advice of this board.

I think you jumped the gun a little bit.
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I might have… seemed like a good thing to say at the time. Just a word of advice.. Peter is the best there is but he is like the Soup Nazi.. if he doesnt like you he will turn you away.. if you are cool he will drop everything he is doing and help you on the spot.
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Thanks John, I appreciate it. I'll be on my best behavior
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^^ LOL ^^

We have a guy thats good with carbs here in central Virginia.
Ben in Charlottesville.

His bread and butter, I'm told, is old Jags with multiple carbs.
He can almost tell whats wrong when they pull in with a rough running motor...


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Samer,

I was talking about being able to get the Edelbrock carb worked on / rebuilt just about anywhere. They are the same carbs that have been used for many many years on ford, chevy, dodge.

my .02 cents worth

If you put a new manifold and carb on rather than getting your current carbs rebuilt you might find you like it enough to not mess with the EFI down the road. Installing the mani and carb should be something you can do at home in the garage for about the same price as having someone rebuild your stock rover carbs.

Why complicate your defender with a rover EFI system? Seems like a bunch of work to get an inferior fuel delivery system. I could see just getting them working if you were waiting to swap in an LS motor but for a 3.9 and rover EFI?

If you decide you want to swap in the rover EFI in later then you will have several people willing to buy the carb and minifold compared to throwing the rover carbs in the trash.

Your rover and money just trying to help
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Thanks for the clarification Dave. I mistakenly assumed you were talking about the SU carbs in the truck now. A couple of weeks back I looked at the Edelbrock option, and the only reason I'm shying away, perhaps mistakenly is because of 3 reasons:

1) cost of NEW parts (manifold and carb), $600 and up depending on the carburator
2) increased horsepower of the 3.9L EFI engine
3) the eventuality of wanting to title the truck in California, knowing that the truck will have to have EFI (among other things) in order to be CARB compliant.

I can meanwhile be "persuaded" to go the Edelbrock way if I can find the required parts in used condition.
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Thanks for the clarification Dave. I mistakenly assumed you were talking about the SU carbs in the truck now. A couple of weeks back I looked at the Edelbrock option, and the only reason I'm shying away, perhaps mistakenly is because of 3 reasons:

1) cost of NEW parts (manifold and carb), $600 and up depending on the carburator
2) increased horsepower of the 3.9L EFI engine
3) the eventuality of wanting to title the truck in California, knowing that the truck will have to have EFI (among other things) in order to be CARB compliant.

I can meanwhile be "persuaded" to go the Edelbrock way if I can find the required parts in used condition.
while the 3.9 is more powerful than your 3.5 its not because of the efi. Its because it is a larger and higher compression engine.
One puts out 114 bhp the other 182 bhp.

FWIW the gems 4.0 made 190 and the 14cux 4.2 made 200.
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Beautiful state too bad the people making laws / rules are a bunch of lunatics.

I know next to nothing about CARB compliance other than what I have discussed with Nick RE the LS swap.

Do you really think that you are going to get someone to tune / rebuild your carbs for much less than the $600 that you would spend on the parts? I would spend the $600 on the carb / manifold and install myself rather than pay to have the rover carbs rebuilt / tuned but I HATE the stock carbs.

When you are done with the Edelbrock parts you can still get 50% of that money back VS the pittance that you would get from selling the rover carbs.

FWIW if I lived in Cali and wanted fuel injection, power, reliability and to be CARB compliant I would talk to Nick about an LS swap
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Jumping into this thread to get some feedback on the Edelbrock conversion for my 3.5. Considering it as a step for the next 2 or three years until I decide whether to do diesel swap or not. I thought I might do the carb swap at the same time as a head gasket job I am planning.

I have gone to the Edelbrock site and tracked down the part numbers for the rover manifold (#2198), Thunder Series carb (#1802), and carb stud kit. Planned to stay with manual choke. What air cleaners have worked for rovers (Defender 110). I see the Edelbrock manifold has the vacuum port for the brake system.

I would really be interested in hearing from a few folks who have done this and whether this is as straight forward as it seems. Really curious whether there were any tuning issues getting it to run right following installation. Any special parts needed to hook up the Rover throttle and choke cables? I see Edelbrock says this carb is non EGR. I was planning on removing my EGR lines from my heads and plugging those ports anyway, but is there any place on the manifold or carb to hook up the vacuum lines that come out of my valve covers?

Also it looks like I need a thremostat adaptor to accept the water pump hose that normally goes to bottom of original manifold but on Edelbrock manifold it goes into the radiator thermostat housing instead. Is RPI the only place to get that adaptor??

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Jumping into this thread to get some feedback on the Edelbrock conversion for my 3.5. Considering it as a step for the next 2 or three years until I decide whether to do diesel swap or not. I thought I might do the carb swap at the same time as a head gasket job I am planning.

I have gone to the Edelbrock site and tracked down the part numbers for the rover manifold (#2198), Thunder Series carb (#1802), and carb stud kit. Planned to stay with manual choke. What air cleaners have worked for rovers (Defender 110). I see the Edelbrock manifold has the vacuum port for the brake system.

I would really be interested in hearing from a few folks who have done this and whether this is as straight forward as it seems. Really curious whether there were any tuning issues getting it to run right following installation. Any special parts needed to hook up the Rover throttle and choke cables? I see Edelbrock says this carb is non EGR. I was planning on removing my EGR lines from my heads and plugging those ports anyway, but is there any place on the manifold or carb to hook up the vacuum lines that come out of my valve covers?

Also it looks like I need a thremostat adaptor to accept the water pump hose that normally goes to bottom of original manifold but on Edelbrock manifold it goes into the radiator thermostat housing instead. Is RPI the only place to get that adaptor??

Thanks in advance.
We have one of these on a 4.2 in an 83. The original accel cable worked fine. The 500cfm carb has her running a tad rich but well enough that we haven't touched it. Truck is getting around 12mpg which is what NAS 110's got when new per the window stickers. If you are going to do head gaskets consider putting the later higher compression heads on. If I were approaching it like you are I would buy some second hand fuel injection heads off a 3.9/4.2/or 4.0, have a valve job done so that when you do the head gaskets you significantly up the compression ratio to around 9 to 1. That will make a huge difference.

For the water pump to manifold issue we have an original 60's buick tempest thermostat housing.
Pretty sure those are easier to find than going to RPI.
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