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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:53 PM
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u-joint zerk fitting location - end cap or body?

What are you guys using for u-joints these days? I have some PDQ/Neapco 1-0005 u-joints I have kept as spares, but would prefer u-joints that did *NOT* have zerks in the cap since I play on rocks and they will just get torn off at some point. I checked my local auto parts store and all they have are the 1-0005s.

I'll call NAPA tomorrow, but does anyone know if the Precision 344 or Spicer 5-4X have the zerk in the cap or body?

Or general thoughts on this issue? Maybe I can find plugs for the fittings and just remove the plug and screw in a zerk when I want to grease them?

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Old March 17th, 2010, 09:52 PM
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GBR double cardin shafts front and read. zerks not on the caps. I dont know what ones he uses though. Call Bill. He is awesome help.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 10:19 PM
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the precision 344 and the spicer have the zerk in the body
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Old March 17th, 2010, 10:39 PM
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cap zerked joints are a wee bit stronger. there are flush zerks that only stick out about 1/8"
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You could also just put in a plug between greasing. I had a tractor PTO shaft that had the zerks plugged. That's stupid, I thought, so I put in normal zerks.
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Old March 18th, 2010, 08:39 AM
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Apparently the other thing to check when you're installing new UJ is reaming out the factory grease before fitting them as it has a tendency to harden and prevent your fresh grease from distributing evenly. I know it's not exactly on-topic but thought it worth a mention since it was mentioned to me last week when I picked up my new ones.
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Old March 18th, 2010, 08:43 AM
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On the topic of strength, if you manage to chip the edges of the caps, what's the failure there? Over flexing the joints while spinning the shaft (possibly on rocks )?
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I had a UJ with the zerk on the cap and never sheared it off when I played in the rocks.
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Having wheeled with you before, all I can say is you are one lucky man!

Speaking of which, when are you coming wheeling again?

------ Follow up post added March 18th, 2010 09:19 AM ------

Ok called around and there is a huge price differential between the neapco and the precision 344 which is what I can get locally ($13 versus $33 and I'll end up getting 4 of them), so I think I'll go with the neapco and try find plugs for the zerk fittings. If anyone knows of a source for these, let me know.
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Old March 18th, 2010, 09:42 AM
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never wheeled with tyler.

check this link
go to page 2175 from the page the link sends you to. then scroll down to flush style fittings.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#grease-fittings/=69ri91

i think you need a needle to put grease in through them, not sure though. they add cost to your joints but are reusable and easier than removing a silly plug

another link

http://www.saeproducts.com/flush-grease-fittings.html


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Having wheeled with you before, all I can say is you are one lucky man!

Speaking of which, when are you coming wheeling again?

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Ok called around and there is a huge price differential between the neapco and the precision 344 which is what I can get locally ($13 versus $33 and I'll end up getting 4 of them), so I think I'll go with the neapco and try find plugs for the zerk fittings. If anyone knows of a source for these, let me know.
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Old March 18th, 2010, 09:59 AM
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Yeah, as pricey as those seem, i have a lot of wiggle room at $20 per. Seems I'll need a adapter for the gun, but probably the way to go. Thanks.

BTW, I think you meant http://www.mcmaster.com/#grease-fittings/=69rkr7 . Makes me wonder how many pages I have missed searching their site since I don't always notice some of the paging options they have.
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minor point...but...the mcmaster links do not always return you to the correct page, they always take you back to the first page in that section. kind of annoying.

i have the neapco joints on my truck. Taking my chances with the nippled cup.


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Yeah, as pricey as those seem, i have a lot of wiggle room at $20 per. Seems I'll need a adapter for the gun, but probably the way to go. Thanks.

BTW, I think you meant http://www.mcmaster.com/#grease-fittings/=69rkr7 . Makes me wonder how many pages I have missed searching their site since I don't always notice some of the paging options they have.
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I made an adapter for the needle type by grinding down a grease nipple and removing the ball. Threaded it to my grease gun and it worked fine. They are a bit more difficult to get the grease to go in the joint though.

I have new Tom woods and they have regular nipples on the caps. Seem like they could break, but having extra nipples in the kit is normal anyway soo...
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Napa carries two different UJ's for our trucks one is American made and the other Japanese. Both have the zerk in the body. I found the american made ones (more expensive) to be inferior to the Japanese made ones. $22-vs $33 so signifigant price difference too.
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Dude that is so unpatriotic of you to say.

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Dude that is so unpatriotic of you to say.
Agreed, the glow of freedom and power oozing from the USA u-joints negates any quality, precision or strength the Japanese joints may have.
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Having wheeled with you before, all I can say is you are one lucky man!

Speaking of which, when are you coming wheeling again?

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Ok called around and there is a huge price differential between the neapco and the precision 344 which is what I can get locally ($13 versus $33 and I'll end up getting 4 of them), so I think I'll go with the neapco and try find plugs for the zerk fittings. If anyone knows of a source for these, let me know.
Not sure. Probably when ever a trip doesn't happen the same weekend as work.
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I'll call NAPA tomorrow, but does anyone know if the Precision 344 or Spicer 5-4X have the zerk in the cap or body?
Precision 344 - zerk in the valley
Spicer 5-4x - At the end Spicer farmed out the mfg of them, but they haven't been made in serveral years and Spicer hasn't even listed them in their books for over a year.

I've been using Neapco 1-0005 and Precision 380's (1310's with the zerk in the end cap) for quite a few years with no issues. The flush fittings hardly protrude beyond the face of the yoke, so if you break one off, you probably have bigger issues.
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Dude that is so unpatriotic of you to say.
Dave are you driving a Chevy ? Isn't your street ride a Benz ? Everything you own with wheels is from Europe.
Don't come bustin balls in this direction.
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It's true, it's all true. Though I do have (mostly) pontiac engine in my 109

So you coming to Uwharrie? Or happy hour?

PS my my bike was built in Wisconsin http://gunnarbikes.com/site/

And I'll be bolting some more made in USA rovertym parts to my 90 soon too

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