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Old May 12th, 2015, 07:10 PM
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Typical same color respray D90 SW

I am looking to do a fresh respray on my D90 SW...the paint is just old and tired...I have to remove the decals on the tub and the doors are new White Puma doors...may need to repair rear door or just replace and all of the rubber seals around the glass will need to be replaced...

What are most people seeing price wise for a respray...and I assume if I remove all of the lights, trim and possibly even the glass prior it would not only save $$ but also provide a better job....or would you just let the BS remove and prep as needed...

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Old May 12th, 2015, 07:30 PM
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Resprays vary from $50 to $50k.

And unless you take it all part it will never be factory perfect. People will always want to know why it was painted and wonder what you are trying to hide.

Learn to love the patina or have it professionally mopped and waxed would be my starting point.
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Old May 12th, 2015, 07:33 PM
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I would think the more prep work you could do, the better you'd be. Have you picked a shop yet to do the spray? Most of them are reasonable in letting the owner do prep work in order to save money, but others may just have a set price they charge no matter what you do! Definitely shop around and talk to them...Find the one you're really comfortable working with and look at some of their previous work. You definitely get what you pay for with paint work, so don't just go with the cheapest overall price!
Where are you located? Just curious since I know a few guys around the country who do paint work.
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I am pretty passionate about paint...I was responsible for one of Fords paint departments in their Assembly Operations...(I also consulted to Harley Davidson when they built their new Paint Plant years ago)..I spent 5 years in Ford's assembly plants overseeing several areas and consider myself more of a mechanical / interior trim person....That is one of the reasons I would not do a color change...the doors are too far gone so I have new ones in White...and the white is more ivory...I would consider removing all of the lights, grill, wheel arches, etc...I Would have no problem removing the glass (may not want to try to get it back in LOL) but when it comes to any body work or prep I will not touch...it's not my specialty...

I would not get a Macco job...but will also not get the same spray that I would if I needed body repair on my Range Rover....This is not a restoration but a refresh...Single stage enamel will do...don't necessarily need BC/CC...but recognize that an outstanding paint job will look like crap if there is awful prep...

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Just curious since I know a few guys around the country who do paint work.
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Same color resprays are much more forgiving, since you can get away with just painting into the jamb and calling it good, but as others have said -- the further you strip the truck, the happier you'll be with the end result. For me that usually means pulling all glass, the front fenders, bonnet, wheel arches, all doors, windscreen frame, bulkhead vents, and roof/window sides on the SW's.

On color changes, such as the white > black '97 SW currently here, we strip the truck all the way down to a rolling chassis and paint each individual panel on a stand so that absolutely none of the original color remains visible.

Keep in mind that even the best tape jobs will leave some amount of paint overspray on the foam and rubber around the truck, and that's a major eyesore to those of who know how to pick a truck apart. Stripping the vehicle down thoroughly will help ensure you're getting a better quality job, and it's the perfect time to replace all of the weathered glass and body seals that are usually unsightly and/or leaking by this age. I'd be happy to provide you with all of the part numbers you'll need if you decide to run that route.

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I'm going through a color change now. Took the entire truck apart and blasted it down to bare metal. For a truck that went though a restoration, she sure had some surprises under her coat.

The more grunt work (dismantling) you can do yourself, the better. Take off all the hardware, the roof, doors, fenders, etc... It's not hard to take it apart and it'll make all the difference in the final product. Don't skimp on the quality of paint either. These trucks don't need showroom finishes or pearlescent paints but they do need quality materials and some elbow grease.
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The good thing about white is its pretty forgiving to color match. Something like red is a nightmare and under a yellow streetlight will look like a complete mismatch even if painted from the same can.
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The good thing about white is....
...it's the best Defender color (colour)! Mine is going from Coniston Green to Alpine White.
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The good thing about white is its pretty forgiving to color match. Something like red is a nightmare and under a yellow streetlight will look like a complete mismatch even if painted from the same can.
actually its not.... be careful that you get a good quality respray with quality paint and do not use clear coat (they were not from the factory)

On a truck that is painted all at once your fine until you park next to a factory paint job of the same color.. white has varying degrees of yellow/blue/green in it that will only be apparent when compared in full sun light.

each paint mix will vary ...

we use to joke about the "right white" for a porsche 356.. you would see 5 different hues at a concourse of the same color.
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actually its not.... be careful that you get a good quality respray with quality paint and do not use clear coat (they were not from the factory) On a truck that is painted all at once your fine until you park next to a factory paint job of the same color.. white has varying degrees of yellow/blue/green in it that will only be apparent when compared in full sun light. each paint mix will vary ... we use to joke about the "right white" for a porsche 356.. you would see 5 different hues at a concourse of the same color.
White is more forgiving than most other colors was my point. In the same way white cars show the dirt and dents less than a black one ...
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actually its not.... be careful that you get a good quality respray with quality paint and do not use clear coat (they were not from the factory)

On a truck that is painted all at once your fine until you park next to a factory paint job of the same color.. white has varying degrees of yellow/blue/green in it that will only be apparent when compared in full sun light.

each paint mix will vary ...

we use to joke about the "right white" for a porsche 356.. you would see 5 different hues at a concourse of the same color.
I know what you mean about that white!! We have a '60 356 that was originally a ivory/white car...it's currently red and I'm going to tackle the color change back to original someday!! It seems like every one I see for comparison is a different white!!

Our 110 is white ('93 NAS) and I love the fact that I can fairly easily touch it up...it's not always a perfect match, but it's definitely better than many other colors out there!!

Keep us informed of the progress!! Sorry I don't know any guys in that area...I'm sure many here can help point you towards some great paint shops up there!!
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The Doors are new take off Puma's in Alpine so I am going to use that as the "target" match...I am going to continue to get the mechanical and other bits done and leave the paint until almost last...it will give me some time to shop for a good shop...
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Curious to see what you decide to do - wondering about it myself. Thanks for posting.
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Any update or pics of new paint job?
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Color sand is the way to go IMO. It was night and day difference for my portifinio red 94 NAS 90. I followed the the Meguiar's Professional Mirror Glaze Training Video to the T. It's really long and very 90's but it work and works very well.
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