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Old July 1st, 2016, 02:15 PM
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Turn Key but Engine Keeps Running

So, yesterday I was meeting a buddy for beers and when I arrived at the bar I turned the Key to Off but the engine kept running. Very weird feeling BTW. I turned it back and tried again, no luck so I just stalled it and started drinking. Started back up just fine but when I got home I had to stall it again.

I've read about other folks having this issue with an early 110 Diesel and the advice they received was pull the lead off the stop solenoid. If it stops, then its an electrical issue, if it doesn't then its a mechanical issue with the solenoid.

Sound right/reasonable way to trouble shoot this thing?
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Old July 1st, 2016, 02:21 PM
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So, yesterday I was meeting a buddy for beers and when I arrived at the bar I turned the Key to Off but the engine kept running. Very weird feeling BTW. I turned it back and tried again, no luck so I just stalled it and started drinking. Started back up just fine but when I got home I had to stall it again.

I've read about other folks having this issue with an early 110 Diesel and the advice they received was pull the lead off the stop solenoid. If it stops, then its an electrical issue, if it doesn't then its a mechanical issue with the solenoid.

Sound right/reasonable way to trouble shoot this thing?
yep, pulling the wire is easier than using a meter.
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Old July 1st, 2016, 02:22 PM
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Old July 1st, 2016, 02:28 PM
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it's actually the fuel cutoff solenoid. Single wire on injector pump and grounds thru the solenoid...
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Old July 1st, 2016, 02:36 PM
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Clay, your motor is actually so happy to finally be running it's overriding your decisions...


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Glad you didn't say blow by.
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Old July 1st, 2016, 03:39 PM
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Clay, your motor is actually so happy to finally be running it's overriding your decisions... .
Exactly. She's absolutely scared of garages.

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Glad you didn't say blow by. http://youtu.be/5zx3qKX_Pno
yeah, simple single wire engines.
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 11:56 AM
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Pulled the solenoid wire while engine was running and engine stopped. In hindsight the wire seemed a little loose.

Lightly sanded/cleaned the connections, reconnected. Whah-la! Back in business.
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Pulled the solenoid wire while engine was running and engine stopped. In hindsight the wire seemed a little loose. Lightly sanded/cleaned the connections, reconnected. Whah-la! Back in business.
Awesome !
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 02:30 PM
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Awesome !
Yeah, seriously. Not that it's rocket science but I watched a YouTube on it and the guy was talking about how tricky it is to remove while in the truck and the abundance of caution re not getting dirt inside while removing it. My grin meter was pegged when all finally checked out this morning.
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Yeah, seriously. Not that it's rocket science but I watched a YouTube on it and the guy was talking about how tricky it is to remove while in the truck and the abundance of caution re not getting dirt inside while removing it. My grin meter was pegged when all finally checked out this morning.


Be glad it wasn't a 300 setup with the tamper proof cover!


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Be glad it wasn't a 300 setup with the tamper proof cover! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yeah, read about that nightmare. Shear bolts and the whole nine yards. No thank you.
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Yeah, read about that nightmare. Shear bolts and the whole nine yards. No thank you.


It's not awful, just takes a while. I removed mine while doing the conversion


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Old July 3rd, 2016, 07:52 AM
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It's not awful, just takes a while. I removed mine while doing the conversion Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Right, during conversion is key. This poor guy was remote somewhere in Germany when shit hit his fan with just basic hand tools.
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Can you post the link to the video you watched...my son just called from the road with his 200 TDI with the same issue. The fuel pump was just replaced so I'm thinking same issue. I'll search but wondering if you can post the link.
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Can you post the link to the video you watched...my son just called from the road with his 200 TDI with the same issue. The fuel pump was just replaced so I'm thinking same issue. I'll search but wondering if you can post the link.


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Thanks...he called me from the fuel station about 3 hours from Austin driving from Detroit...did it in two days. Pretty good for a 17 year old in a Soft top 87 ExMOD!! of course the heats gotta be killing him, lol.
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Thanks...he called me from the fuel station about 3 hours from Austin driving from Detroit...did it in two days. Pretty good for a 17 year old in a Soft top 87 ExMOD!! of course the heats gotta be killing him, lol.
That's very impressive for a 17yo these days. Great life lessons though.
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That's very impressive for a 17yo these days. Great life lessons though.
Yeah he did a 7 day trip with a buddy a few weeks ago for prep and has been on several expeditions. We did the Tejas to Alaska run last year so lots of miles on this kid. 1700 miles in a day and a half so I hope that this is the only problem...next week we caravan to New Mexico for 3 weeks and she goes to Roadside Rob's for updates, new trans, power steering and the like.
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Can you post the link to the video you watched...my son just called from the road with his 200 TDI with the same issue. The fuel pump was just replaced so I'm thinking same issue. I'll search but wondering if you can post the link.
Dave Bobeck and I were chatting about this yesterday. What you might tell your son to do is to give it a few taps with a flathead and a hammer. If the spring is gunk'd it may dislodge enough to get him on his way.
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