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Old May 16th, 2016, 08:16 PM
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replace fuel filter, check coil and amplifier output, check tps sweep.
diagnose systematically do not jump from one component to another with out verifying proper operation of each and everyone of the components involved.
there is no magic way of simply pinpointing to a failure with 100 percent success with out testing.

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Old May 16th, 2016, 08:24 PM
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replace fuel filter, check coil and amplifier output, check tps sweep. diagnose systematically do not jump from one component to another with out verifying proper operation of each and everyone of the components involved. there is no magic way of simply pinpointing to a failure with 100 percent success with out testing. good luck...
Yeah you kinda missed the 4 hrs of systematic troubleshooting (install/test/the-install) on all the parts we tried
All those bits were swapped (except amp module since it "could " be bad) and the the original bit was out back in.... Some of them we pulled from my truck which is working fine as well..
In another life, I ran a test group..
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Old May 16th, 2016, 08:41 PM
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Basically it floods (current thinking) when throttle is applied but also after 1-2 minutes at idle.
Any sort of non gradual throttle kills it.. Almost like the computer thinks it is at full throttle all the time
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TPS was swapped with my old one, which was good, I swapped it thinking it may have been the culprit for my stalling issue (now resolved), it wasn't... And is fine.. There is not much else to look out other than cap/rotor/amp module in the ignition circuit since all other senders are fine (maybe coolent temp sender? Which has not been swapped out) but we can pull mine which is new to test)
And I guess the MAF, since I have a new one
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Mine died under similar circumstances. Had been doing 80 with three guys, weekend worth of gear, and a dog in the truck.
Turned out to be a carbon tracking on rotor sending the juice from the coil down the distributor shaft instead of out to the contacts on the cap.
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I have relatively new cats. Coolant temp sensor is pretty new. Fuel temp sender is original
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Mine died under similar circumstances. Had been doing 80 with three guys, weekend worth of gear and a dog in the truck. Turned out to be a carbon traced rotor sending the juice from the coil down the distributor shaft instead of out to the contacts on the cap.
That is a great lead... And cap/rotor/clean are next up on the list
Yes it has cats as well..
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Old May 16th, 2016, 09:13 PM
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That is a great lead... And cap/rotor/clean are next up on the list
Yes it has cats as well..
Cleaning won't cure carbon tracking. Swap em out
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Issue resolved. Pulled the rotor and it was toast. I assumed it wasn't the rotor since it wasn't running badly before.
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Issue resolved. Pulled the rotor and it was toast. I assumed it wasn't the rotor since it wasn't running badly before.
Must be nice to pull up on your rotor and not have your entire distributor shaft/springs come up with it.
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Cool, same issue as mine.
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Old May 18th, 2016, 09:25 AM
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Cool, same issue as mine.
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I assumed the rotor would go gradually. I assumed the truck would start to run rough before it quit. Did not know they could just fail.

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I assumed the rotor would go gradually. I assumed the truck would start to run rough before it quit. Did not know they could just fail.

Brian
Mine died with no warning late @ night @ that light in Kinston @ the Skinners By Pass.
It had been running fantastic. Fortunately the all night gas station sold beer so
We drank for an hour and a half waiting for my brother to come up from Harkers.
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Issue resolved. Pulled the rotor and it was toast. I assumed it wasn't the rotor since it wasn't running badly before.
Congrats and you win a $.
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Issue resolved. Pulled the rotor and it was toast. I assumed it wasn't the rotor since it wasn't running badly before.
Excellent news.
Please go back and read post number 2.
I think you should do all 3 if you haven't already.
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What is the recommended source for rotors? I've received mixed signals re the new ones packaged as Lucas but made by someone else. Is there anything better?
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I have heard that Powerspark red rotors from the UK have good.reviews
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I've used both.
Never had a problem with either.
Comparison, at Rovers North Genuine Cap($60) and Rotor($30) versus Proline(Allmakes?) Cap($18.50) and Rotor($8.50)

Someone compare them side by side and show me the quality difference in the Genny??

The one thing I learnt years ago is dont muck it up by pulling the rotor off-- crack it and break it loose.
Put a little grease in the new one and change it every coupla years.
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search and you shall find....
http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...-lr-51547.html

i did this a while back - the OEM one is made substantially better/thicker than the proline/lucas ones.
im not sure it actually effects anything but i change them fairly often anyway..
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