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Old July 26th, 2009, 09:13 AM
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Trail break diagnosis

So i broke something on the trail yesterday. Didnt realize it till I was driving home and the gear box started to sound like it was full of marbles and started smoking. Limped home and let it sit for awhile. I went to pull it into the barn and realized I had no reverse. Im assuming I broke the tranny. Anyway to tell without dropping it? How hard is it to pull out? I forgot to add this is a fairly new transmission. It was replaced a couple years ago by the previous owner. Are these things that easy to break? I wasnt wheeling that hard.
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Old July 26th, 2009, 05:55 PM
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Ok so an amendment to the post above. Reverse does work when i put the diff lock into low. Doestnt work in either high locked or unlocked. Anyone have this problem? Did i break the tranny or transfercase?
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Old July 26th, 2009, 08:40 PM
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Odds are you hosed the diff inside the T-case. First thing I would do is drain t-case and look for chunks.

If you really want to figure it out, you can try a bunch of different tests.

BTW if this is for a 110, I have a 1.4 t-case sitting here and I also have some diff parts if you want to rebuild yours as I plan to fit a part time kit.
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Old July 26th, 2009, 08:44 PM
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Thanks Ron I will start by draining it. Its actually for a 90 but thank you for the offer.
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I don't have a 90 t-case, but I do have parts for one or I would be happy to take your core to rebuild, err -- repair, I don't rebuild them, send it to roadside Rob for a proper job -- for someone else.

roverguy has used t-cases for $350 shipped usually (or there abouts).

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Old July 26th, 2009, 08:56 PM
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Thanks Ron thats very cool of you. Can i ask a personal question? How do you have time to run a law practice and repair transfercases on the side?! Who is roadside bob?
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Old July 26th, 2009, 09:07 PM
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Rob Dassler - Southwest Rovers, phone 505.270.8671 and on this forum as Roadside Rob.....

He has rebuilt a trans, t-case and underdrive for me and I'd highly recommend him. He is in Albuquerque, NM.
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If you only knew. I work way too much. In fact, I worked 90 days straight at work, work until July 4th weekend, but since then I have had weekends off and been working normal hours. I don't have time really and I don't do it that often. I do maybe one t-case a year (people give me or I buy broken ones cheap and a couple of them together to make one good one or sell off parts people need like the rear output housing so you can convert a later case for a D90). I can replace a diff in a t-case in about 3 hours so I can do it at night just for kicks rather than surf the internet. Basically, if I am not a work and there is something like daylight out there, I am working on rover or other car stuff.

As I tell people, I sell rover parts like a drug user starts dealing to support his habbit. I don't make money off it and I do it to help people and advance the hobby more than anything.

roadside rob is Rob Dassler of Southwest Rovers (his username here is roadsiderob). He rebuilds LT230s, R380s and LT77s as a business and, by reputuation, does outstanding work.
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Wow thats crazy. 90 hours is a long week. Ill drain the case and see where I stand after that. Im thinking tihs thing must of been ready to go since the tranny was already replaced I didnt really push the truck that hard on the trail.
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While I often work 90 hour weeks, I worked 90 DAYS without a day off.

T-case probably ran low on oil and blew up or the diff blew up and wedged stuff in a bearing.
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Old July 26th, 2009, 10:06 PM
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Sounds like you need to buy that Scamp and get up to Maine for some R&R
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Some guy from NC beat me out on the first scamp and the second one was a scam (who tries to scam on a 1978 scamp!).

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Ok so no chunks in the transfer case oil. What are the other tests I might try?
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Old July 27th, 2009, 02:37 PM
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I know you said it wouldn't move in high lock but if it were me I would get someone to look at the drive shafts when you try to move and see what is going on. (of course they can't be under the truck) If a drive shaft turns but the truck doesn't move then you have a different problem. Sometimes a broken CV will allow a truck to move in one direction and not another or it grabs off and on.
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He drained the oil and it smelled burnt though. I PMed you the way I would check it.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 02:41 PM
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Thanks Ron. I just deleted some messages because i think my box was full and didnt get your PM.

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I know you said it wouldn't move in high lock but if it were me I would get someone to look at the drive shafts when you try to move and see what is going on. (of course they can't be under the truck) If a drive shaft turns but the truck doesn't move then you have a different problem. Sometimes a broken CV will allow a truck to move in one direction and not another or it grabs off and on.
Ill try that as well but like Ron said I drained the tcase and oil and it was jet black and smells awful like it burned.
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